It's the same fake argument every time they try to take away your rights

Man people really set up the strawmen here. Congress has literally said it’s about foreign influence, not about protecting children. It has absolutely nothing to do with kids. It has to do with China influencing the citizens of the United States to do things that are beneficial to China, against the interests of the US government.

It’s not a ban, if China gives up control of the app to a United States entity then there’s no problem. It has absolutely nothing to do with protecting children.

"What about the people on epsteins list" is gotta be the most generic strawman.

Let's ban TikTok while our kids are dying because of guns. It's like they're doing everything they can to lose an election.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

The way .ml cries everyday about TikTok being banned you'd think it was an actual real life crises for all of you.

Multiple counties have already banned the app (as well as other ccp government apps) years before the US started trying to. Where was all the out cry then?

What in the tankie fuck am i reading

Because it's not a list of rapists, just a list of people Epstein was interested in having influential control over.

...and even going to the Island just meant he was trying to influence you. He was looking for whatever leverage he could find over people.

Fuck TikTok, but I’m sick of hearing “BUT THE KIDS!!!” As an excuse for constantly trampling everyone’s freedoms

If the "protect children" politician does nothing about school shootings, you know they're a PoS.

How is this itself not a fake argument?

The arguments in support of tick-tock are a bizarre amalgamation of just about every category of bad faith argument. I haven't seen one that suggests tick-tock it's actually a net benefit.

This is fucking retarded

But Black Dynamite, we're on Epstein's list.

I may have missed something in civics class, but since when is access to a crappy social media site a right?

The "for the children" arguments are almost always misleading.

Don't get me wrong, there's stuff that's genuinely "for the children", but the vast majority of the time they're doing something for the children it's not.

Bluntly, the core of the argument for a lot of the online stuff for the children is reported as protecting them against would be child molestation or dangers of some similar variety. In tiktok's case, here's a platform that has huge potential for revenue due to its popularity, and has an established user base. I'm certain that many of the so-called upper class/elites/capitalist pigs/owners of the country, are salivating at the prospect of getting a piece of that. It was said, in the open discussion for the bill to ban tiktok, that they want to "make" tiktok "better". Not better for the people using it, better for the people who could profit from it. Several of these shit heads have already, formally and publicly stated that they have an interest in acquiring the platform, because the bill says: tiktok will be banned unless it sells to an American owner. So the only way for tiktok to operate in America after the bill is passed, is for them to buy it.

The legislation isn't for the children. The legislation is the people who actually hold power, making the government do a thing so they can reap the rewards.

They want to profit off of the children. Because mind raping them at a young age into a life of consumerism and spending, while earning money for that privilege, is a capitalists wet dream.

It's because Epstein's island is a honeypot </tinfoil-hat>

What right? The right to install CCP spyware on your phone? Lol

American political posts and the comments never fail to disappoint me.

Guys, have you ever been screwed by chinese seller on Aliexpress? Or missleaded by chinese ad? Lie and cheating is a part of chinese culture. So I think, that China is really a security threat.

it would be one thing if they were actually going to ban it, but the plan is pretty plainly for deep state establishment to seize it so that the US government can do all the awful things that they're accusing the Chinese government of doing. Remember y'all, the difference between information and propaganda is "Do I like the person who is currently speaking?" and nothing more.

TikTok isn’t your “right”, and if you say that banning tiktok is talking away your rights, TikTok’s taking away people’s lives

• Are different, unrelated things
• Involve different parts of government
• Involve different people in charge
• Is smoothbrain understanding of criminal investigations
• Is smoothbrain understanding of due process

I'm starting to fly down some 'conspiracy hole' about this shit: I can't trust or even hope that the avalanche of memes like these aren't Chinese (or Russian? they love stirring our shit up for the lulz) in origin. This paranoia reinforces itself in a loop

Lemmy is mostly children isn't it