Who doesn't like the running symbols in the terminal?
Who doesn't like the running symbols in the terminal?
Man updating packages by compiling them is so stupid
Oh look 15 updated packages from AUR
75I always go with the binary version if it's available in the AUR, ain't nobody got time for that.
27I mean yes if time is an issue, but compiled code on your own hardware is specifically tuned to your machine, some people want that tiny tweak of performance and stability.
5I use both for different purposes. Gentoo’s feature flags are the reason I wait for compiles, but only for computers a touch the keyboard with. Everything else gets Arch.
3would you mind elaborating on the benefits? like what does one actually gain in a real-world scenario by having the software tuned to a specific machine?
disk space aside, given the sheer amount of packages that come with a distro, are we talking about 30% less CPU and RAM usage (give or take), or is it more like squeezing out the last 5% of possible optimization?
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is so stupid
Until you learn about compile flags. It's mostly about customizability.
3Clearly I shouldn't have missed the /s
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Special Fuck You to:
- clang
- LibreOffice
- Firefox
- llvm
I only use dwm, so no idea how long it takes to compile KDE or
GentooGnome.Everything else is so quick. Just those four take 20-30 minutes each.
24Before I had a proper internet connection (had to ask permission to borrow a dial up account) I bought a magazine that had a picture of a cow on it saying that Larry the cow was different. It was a DVD image of the stage one mirror of this new fangled Gentoo thing.
Learnt from the magazine how to install a bootloader and so on and then "bravely" typed
emerge worldinto the terminal after configuring the list of all the packages I wanted. Including a full desktop (KDE I think but may have been Gnome). And Firefox. And Open Office. And some multimedia stuff I don't remember.On a Pentium ii.
Took a week before I could do the next step :D
24Might I add:
- GCC
- webkit-gtk
6You forgot rust
3qt as well
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12 hours, yes? My first Gentoo install took like 3 times that for all the things stupid me wanted to have.
19So I take it you did not install OpenOffice?
7I think there were binary packages for it and Firefox, I wasn't completely unprepared.
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Relatable. Me: wants musl libc and to build stuff with clang (so that it's not gnu/gentoo). Firefox: doesn't want neither muls, nor clang due to some god knows how old bug.
3Even under FreeBSD and OpenBSD they use GCC for things requiring it, which kinda highlights Gentoo philosophy's problem in this regard. Setting USE flags mostly globally seems like a cool idea, but when for customization it gets down to setting them for every package - one could as well use FreeBSD ports.
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Assuming it actually compiled. Otherwise there are even more smug looks.
12I am rolling a few Gentoo VM’s these days and it’s really not that bad to compile things these days and I am on an old ass (10 year) dual Xeon setup. I remember X taking a few days to a week to compile back in the 2000’s
10Also how LFS users look down at Gentoo users after spending 6 years learning how to do everything themselves
7Oh man, just today I was messing around with flatpak, where I tried building webkit2, which took ages, or almost an hour (to be more specific).
And I was thinking to myself if that's what Gentoo feels like.
4void linux
2Linux voided
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I usually compile with
--quiet-build=y, it doesn't have to be configures and makefiles blasting into a shell window the whole time. On the rare occasions where a build fails there's still the log in/var/tmp/portage/....2I use Arch btw.
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