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that's some good goya

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Velvet Buzzsaw covered this topic goofily but it did bring up an interesting point. Posthumously denying a painter’s desire for privacy is a nearly voyeuristic act of greed. I haven’t read into this enough to know whether Goya wanted privacy, but it still reminded me.

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- If you think this topic is interesting, I highly recommend the game The Beginner's Guide. It's a full exploration of this specific idea.
  
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  The game is Wreden's follow-up to the critically praised The Stanley Parable
  
  I can’t say I’m not intrigued by a full game created to even further express the nuanced relationship between artist and viewer.
  
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- nearly voyeuristic act of greed
  
  Uh, no. Saturn is in the Museo del Prado. Society is immeasurably richer for it. Kafka wanted his stories burned when he died. Good thing his executor just ignored him.
  
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  "My desire to pretend I'm a cultured intellectual for profit is more important than the privacy and explicit wishes of a dead person who trusted me."
  
  You have no right to anyone else's private thoughts and creations.
  
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  Max Brod claimed he told Kaka he wasn't going to burn his works and that he needed to appoint a different executor if he wanted that. We don't have anything more than Brod's word, but if it's true, that makes it hard to feel bad about him getting Kafka published.
  
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  An astoundingly high proportion of museum pieces were collected by the museum as donations from people of wealth who sought to reduce their tax burdens, which makes me more suspicious rather than less. But I don’t know enough about Kafka’s executor or Goya’s intent to say whether anyone could be called greedy in either case, just a vaguely relevant thought from a middling movie.
  
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  This was the plot of the game The Beginner's Guide (made by the same dev as The Stanley Parable).
  
  Not sure how to do spolier text on Lemmy, but the basic premise is that some artists make creations for themselves and never intend to share them. Is the world entitled to your personal diary? Notes made on a notepad app? Internet searches? What constitutes art?
  
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Subscribing for more weird art history facts

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- From Wiki: "In 1819, at the age of 72, Goya moved into a two-story house outside Madrid that was called Quinta del Sordo (Deaf Man's Villa). Although the house had been named after the previous owner, who was deaf, Goya too was nearly deaf at the time as a result of an unknown illness he had suffered when he was 46."
  
  I've seen these paintings and had no idea about any of this. I also want more weird art history facts.
  
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  Artists really go all out on their goblin mode
  
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This video talks about this very thoroughly

https://youtu.be/GLW9omJfAdk?si=YQUlTLfwdS-X408P

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I have recently had some great ideas for dark art that I make for myself but don't want anyone else to see

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