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Horseshoe Theory keeps coming true, Tankies regurgitating altright conspiracies: "the Proud Boys were revealed to be basically an FBI op based on how much of the leadership were informants."

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Yeah, they don't seem to understand what informant means.

My understanding of this is that he was a real alt-right Nazi who lead a legitimately fascist organization. He wasn't an FBI agent who started an organization to catch alt-right folks. He was a Nazi who was happy to snitch to save his own ass.

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- I think the implication isn't that the FBI started the Proud Boys, it's that they had enough informants in place to arrest the seditionists before the insurrection happened. Like the last paragraph in the screenshot says- they're accusing the FBI of allowing the insurrection to happen because they were too busy using the Proud Boys as a honeypot to bother shutting it down. Obviously the Proud Boys are still a problem, but it may recontextualize things to have the extra info about the FBi's extensive foreknowledge of the attacks.
  
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Proud Boys leaders breaking and giving up information to lessen their own jail time, ie becoming an informant, doesn't mean they're an FBI plant as claimed by the morons there.

They really are just the left version of Qanon, huh?

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- An informant in this context is someone who was providing the information to the FBI during the conspiracy, not as part of a plea agreement.
  
  Like the last paragraph in the screenshot says- they're accusing the FBI of allowing the insurrection to happen because they were too busy using the Proud Boys as a honeypot to bother shutting it down. Obviously the Proud Boys are still a problem, but it may recontextualize things to have the extra info about the FBi's extensive foreknowledge of the attacks.
  
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FYI: “Horseshoe Theory” is a construct used by the right to defang the left.

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- So is lumping Tankies in with the left.
  
  Tankies are authoritarians who pretend to be leftist. They are often anti-progress, as much so as right-wingers (because they secretly are, they just root for a different authoritarian)
  
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  Authoritarianism is basically apolitical. I've read it boiled down to state/regime monopoly over industry, how you get there, left or right, is almost just a detail once you're there.
  
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- I liked the theory that @PugJesus@kbin.social posted when I mentioned horseshoe theory:
  
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  This is awesome and hilarious.
  
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- Black duck, red duck, quack quack quack
  
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- I mean, y'all are the right compared to the "tankies".
  
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My eyes hurt from reading that hot mess.

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Yeah man, famous alt right publication Reuters here claiming the proud boys were lead by an FBI informant.

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- To clarify further for those too lazy to read. An informant is a rat, not an employee.
  
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  Remind me what happens to informants who refuse to cooperate with authorities.
  
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- keyword Informant.
  
  Drugdealers are also FBI informants.
  
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- I'm confused. I honestly can't tell what side you're on. Your tone appears to be in support of the conspiracy, but your comments actual content appears to be otherwise. I can't tell if this is miscommunication or what.
  
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  I think that's their point, to sow confusion.
  
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  I’m saying that there were, factually people working with the FBI in high ranking positions of the Proud Boys and it’s not really conspiracy to say so. You can read as much or as little into that as you want.
  
  The side I’m on is that Proud Boys, whatever their origin or how many of their leaders were FBI stooges, all belong in fucking jail.
  
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