ContrarianTrail @ ContrarianTrail @lemm.ee

Independent thinker valuing discussions grounded in reason, not emotions.

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If you can't make an argument for your view using your own words, then I'm not interested in going any further with this.

I don't know what the vast majority of songs I listen to are about. I have some genetic defect that makes it near impossible to hear lyrics. It all sounds like melody to me.

questioning morals of not endorsing genocide

That’s a somewhat skewed lens to view it through, as not everyone agrees that what we’re seeing is a genocide. I definitely don’t think it is. I’m open to hearing arguments to the contrary, but so far, everyone I’ve tried discussing it with either gets emotionally captured or doesn’t argue honestly and in good faith, so the discussion goes nowhere.

I have said what I had to say on the topic and you seem to posses such a good mind-reading capabilities that I don't think I'm needed for this discussion. I have no interest in engaging with people who result in personal attacks and accusations. Have a good debate.

I've been accused of being both Trump and Kamala supporter today despite not even living in the U.S.

Nope, I'm just a dispassionate observer who doesn't think in binary. Trump is not all bad no more than Kamala is all good. Things are nuanced and complicated.

Also no, I don't think people either lie 100% of the time or not at all, but I also don't think you get to arbitrarily choose which is a lie and what is not based on which better fits your agenda.

..is an absolute statement in itself.

What’s beneficial to himself and the U.S. seems like the only thing he cares about.

“Make America Great Again” is his motto, and the actions he took during his first term mostly aligned with it, even if the outcomes didn’t always turn out as intended. If you don’t believe he means what he says, then I don’t think he should be criticized for the rest of what he says either - since he wouldn’t mean that, either.

He says he wants to end the war. Ending support doesn't do that and I don't see how Russia winning would be beneficial to the US.

What gets louder as it gets smaller?

A baby in a trash compactor.

I hope you're not keeping that on your bank account. Make it work for you. I've put all my savings into diversified, low-cost index funds.

I recently reached a point that I could pay off my house if I wanted to. I'm really tempted to, but I think I'll just keep it invested.

Personally, I don't see morals as entirely subjective.

I'd say that 'worst possible misery for everyone' is objectively bad and any attempt to move away from that is better.

I'm not American

Somehow every attempt to reason with people like you ends up to you getting pissed and ending the discussion.

I'm interested in real life solutions. Not fantasies. You can advocate for 'stopping genocide and oppression everywhere' all you want. Religious extremists like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and ISIS couldn't care less about your wishes. Death for Isreal and death for America is what they want and they'll happily tell you this.

Despite the high number of civilian casualties, Israel is actually doing a better job at it that the US has with their skirmishes in the middle east. It's not like they're not trying to minimize the civilian casualties, Hamas just makes it really hard by using their population as human shields.

Also, if you look at the videos of Israeli civilian hostages dragged thru the streets of Gaza after the october 7 invasion, there's a good number of palestinian civilians cheering. Would the Israeli population be doing the same thing were IDF to drag raped Palestinian women thru the streets of Israel? I doubt it.

Hamas is a death cult. There's no negotiating with them. The only solution is their complete destruction and showing the world that these views will not be tolerated. It's the average muslim who suffers the most because of these religious extremists.

A good number of left-wing politicans in my country would be considered right-wing in the USA.

So what’s the harm in at least giving into their demands?

If people refused to vote because both candidates support Israel, then whose to say that suggesting to withdraw that support wont make an equal or greater number of people to then vote for the candidate who does?

trans, blacks, and other minorities

To be fair, a good number of people voted for Trump because of identity politics as well

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

I'd rather lose my hearing than vision if those are the only two options, despite not actually wanting to lose neither - which is not an option.