Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now

🙏🙏🙏 here's hoping 🙏🙏🙏

NATO will be fine. They'll just have to up their game a bit militarily. If America wants to be insular and wrap a flag of isolationism around them, it'll hurt in the short term, but after four years of being more independent of Americas tit, its more than likely the US that will find itself less relevant globally.

Even before this, there was already rumblings, not just in China, but elsewhere, about ditching the american dollar standard and returning to the gold standard. That's just going to gain momentum as soon as Trump starts trying to wave his mushroom around.

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

Hopefully the EU takes over. It has a lot more economic strength then NATO. Also the UK is strong as well, but that can be managed. Turkey does its own things anyway and I would not trust them. Norway and Iceland are not that important. Canada is going to go with the US anyway. The advantage is easier common funding for projects, due to the EU having more direct access to money. There are also a lot of the basics in the works already.

Good job to all of the fucks who stayed home because of Gaza, thinking that not voting and letting the GOP rise to power would actually help the situation.

Yeah, because Netanyahu's extreme right-wing policy was a problem with the US's left-wing party, right?

I think that’s unlikely.

But I also thought Trump winning was unlikely,

So what do I know?

I mean if Europe wants to increase their military funding and move items in house I think that would be a wonderful idea. Because America is not a reliable partner in this at all in the past two decades.

NATO will kick us to the curb and rise to the challenge. We will need them one day and they will say no.

It will just be renamed to No America Treaty Organization

Thank fuck we didn’t give up our nukes in the UK.

It seems like a very real possibility. A new, EU followup seems like a natural next step to protect the borders and peace.

The biggest thing will be all those nato countries who can't do anything with their US weapons if the US says so.

4 years? Try 6 months from now.

Can NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.

It isn't credible now. It likely won't exist at all in 4 years. Unless it cedes even more decision making authority to the US and becomes even more of a puppet.

Let’s just kick America out if need be.

NATO colonies deserve their freedom. They need a backbone to stop being US slaves, and Trump demeaning demand terms, is an opportunity for that backbone. It is categorically absurd that Russia threatens to invade current NATO members, and the idiocy of continuing a war on Russia needs to be more obvious to the colonies.

As an european: Good riddance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

When the US speaks about protection, they mean vassality. It means protection like the mafia does.