PhilipTheBucket @ PhilipTheBucket @piefed.social

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I really would not recommend specializing in C# at this point in computing history. You can do what you want obviously, but Python is much more likely to be what you want. C++ or Java might be okay if you want a job and are okay with a little bit dated / not ideal languages, or you could learn one of the proliferation of niche backend Linuxy languages, but C# has most of the drawbacks of C++ and Java without having even their relative level of popularity.

IDK what issue you're having with VSCode, but I think installing the .NET SDK and then using dotnet by hand from the command line, to test the install, might be a good precursor to getting it working in VSCode. But IDK why you would endeavor to do this in the first place.

Yeah. It feels like the issue is that really solving it is hard work (you can feel, with the proliferation of Linux/Windows runtimes that get downloaded behind the scenes for Steam, how much effort they're continuously putting into releasing new runtimes that make slight adjustments for particular issues), and organizations like Ubuntu are always tempted into these kind of "we'll just set up a simple system that means we don't have to work on it because it'll be solved" approaches.

Honestly I think Linus is being a little over simplistic about how easy it would be to create ABI compatibility in userland. In the kernel it's realistic, but in userland it would be hopeless. But he's not wrong that the current situation, however it arrived, is pretty crappy from a POV of wanting to ship something to people outside of the distro's package management, and IMO none of the solutions that have come along since then are effective at solving the problem.

When did he discuss OnePackage or any other packaging project?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

Look at the chart. You literally pulled "probably in the top 5" completely out of nowhere, and you've now admitted that while saying this stuff you had no real idea in mind how many nuclear-armed states there are in the world.

I have no interest in continuing a back-and-forth with you or opening up new lines of argument to bicker about. You've stated your case, congratulations. Read more. Study.

States tend to get the leaders that they deserve. Plenty of Israelis hate Netanyahu and what he's doing, but also, plenty more of them (a majority) do not.

See also Trump. 😢

I dunno dude. I'll take "there are some research papers about theoretical attacks, speculation that similar techniques were used by law enforcement when after great effort they were able to take down a bunch of sites that were literally some of their highest priorities at the time because they were openly and flagrantly committing felonies in the open for years, and some vulnerabilities fixed in 2014 that might have been related" over "they would have to send a subpoena" any day.

The level of the water in the dam has nothing at all to do with the dilution of what goes into the sanitary sewer.

more likely in the top 5

They definitely are not.

I think you don't actually have knowledge about this stuff and are just kind of spinning out theories... I mean, it's fine, I am not particularly expert and am just kind of speculating also according to my lack of knowledge. But some of the stuff you are saying is just objectively immediately visible as not true, and it makes me question your judgement about broader and more subjective conclusions.

Yes, Israel bad, nukes bad, crazy people running countries in the Mideast and getting away with mass murder is bad. We should stop having nukes, at some point; if global warming doesn't get us, something someday is going to be wrong and it's going to be real real bad.

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Just to be clear, I haven't used "thermonuclear" in any other of my responses in this post, and was only doing so in this single instance to respond directly to your text here (emphasis mine):

I think that’s true, functionally speaking, of basically any thermonuclear-armed state.

Yeah, because not every nuclear-armed state could effectively end the world if they got in an existential armed conflict. I think every thermonuclear state could (and likely would). That's what I meant by that.

Not much to add to the rest of it, but I said it in the precise way I did for a precise reason.

terrible for developers

He brought up specific things from the POV of working on subsurface where Linux made things a lot more difficult for them than every "consumer" operating system.

I worked on the packaging projects he is discussing.

Which packaging projects? I don't even remember him talking about particular projects (aside from Debian itself), just about the general landscape of the problem and the attitudes of distro makers that have created it.

AppImage at the time was essentially the same thing as he was aiming for, but it has some security drawbacks. He hated them. He wanted to be them.

Post this talk, Flatpak came out, which is an improvement on the AppImage premise, but has layers, so uses less disk...in theory. He hated it.

I notice neither of these has made all that much of an impact. I have never in my life used either one of them or been encouraged to by anyone else, it has always been package management, or Docker, or pick your binary tarball, or curl | sudo sh and cross fingers.

He wants the unattainable technical solution just like every other developer.

He attained two totally separate attainable technical solutions which solved massive problems in the tech ecosystem and shape the landscape of computing today (one-and-a-half, GNU deserves quite a bit of credit.) I happen to agree mostly with his judgement on this particular problem, so it's easier for me to see it that way, but I definitely would not dismiss out-of-hand his judgement on the right way to approach significant problems.

Steam I think is probably the closest thing to "right" for the problem he was describing. You pick your app, it downloads and then it works. There's some behind-the-scenes nonsense involved, but it is in actuality hidden from the end-user, in a way that it is not in any of the "we fixed the Linux desktop!" solutions I have seen that are in actuality just another instance of XKCD 927. I was actually really pleased that he brought up Valve since that was the example that came to mind when he was laying out the problem.

I think it is okay if Linux is bad on "the desktop," honestly. The world needs tractors and consumer-grade cars. They both have use cases. If what you need is a tractor, and you're comfortable with the fact that it's not going to work like a car, then a tractor will do things that are totally impossible with a Hyundai Elantra. That doesn't mean we need to make tractors just as user-friendly as cars are, so that people can have one vehicle that does both. It is okay for some things to have a learning curve. But I think the example of the difficulties they had with subsurface are really significant things, it's not just a question of "oh yeah it works different," there are things that are just worse.

I think something like Arch or NixOS is probably the closest to "right" at this point. There is still a learning curve, so maybe not for everyone, but it's manageable and things aren't set up in gratuitously difficult ways. Maybe Bazzite, based on what I've heard, but I have not tried it so IDK.

When did they break Tor? Are you sure they didn't just exploit vulnerabilities on an onion site that was hosted on Tor or something?

I do too, clearly as does Linus. He's just talking about some of the issues that prevent it from getting adopted by the normies.

I believe the difference between Israel and other thermonuclear states

Israel is not a thermonuclear state, unless I missed something very very big.

It seems pretty obvious that the western powers have yet to intervene in any meaningful way.

To me, too, I just don't think that OP's explanation is why.

My preference is that Israel's leadership grows a conscience and stops trying to bomb their neighbors into peace. However, in the absence of this, western powers should intervene. Whether it's through sanctions, embargoes, or other political red lines, steps should be taken

Completely agreed. Didn't OP say that this might result in widespread nuclear annihilation, though? That's part of why I disagree with OP on the thesis of this post.

It seems like we're kind of going in circles. The individual elements of what you're saying generally make quite a lot of sense to me and I agree, I'm just having trouble connecting it to what OP seems like they're saying. Since they don't seem really inclined to come in here and defend what they were on about, IDK how productive it is for you and me to talk about it.

A government lawyer conceded in court that those detained by ICE at the facility did not have access to certain services, including sleeping mats, in-person legal visits, medication and more than two meals per day.

The fuck

"Services"?

Why not just replace it with a cap that isn't a flip-top? Screw it on tight, squeeze the bottle slightly before putting the cap on so there's a slight negative pressure. That would be my first thing to try.

What makes the Samson option different is that Israeli leaders have expressed the intent to take out the entire world if Israel was ever facing total annihilation.

I think that's true, functionally speaking, of basically any thermonuclear-armed state.

I don't believe the OP is at all claiming that if anyone tried to enact sanctions, arms embargoes, ICC warrants against Israel, or otherwise interfere with the genocide, Israel would immediately *nuke the world. It specifically claims Israel would respond in this way "if cornered". In this context, I interpret "cornered" as in backed into a corner with no way out, by an aggressive party who seeks Israels destruction.

Read the second paragraph again. OP is claiming that Western leaders are not sanctioning Israel in the fairly mild ways described because they're afraid of nuclear war.

I do think that without Western military assistance (and more to the point deterrence), Israel with its current course of conduct might be destroyed by its neighbors. But that and "stay the course" aren't the only two options. I actually think that it would be way safer, in terms of global nuclear security, if Western countries forcibly stopped the genocide Israel is conducting. As it is, that scenario where Israel is getting overrun by regional enemies and throwing nukes (at them or at other targets) sounds not too unlikely as years go by and things change, with everyone remembering what they did. And so I interpreted OP as saying that if someone tried for the enforced peace agreement, or the war crimes trials, nukes.

I do think that fear of Israel getting overrun is the source of some of that unwavering military and deterrence assistance that keeps them alive and safe to do whatever they want. I don't think it is what is stopping Western leaders from punishing Israel for their current genocide. I think they just don't want to (or don't have the political will embedded in their systems that it would take to get it done), honestly.

So the bottle doesn't break, it just pops open? This still sounds like a packaging issue. Maybe unstopper / squeeze / stopper the bottle, so it's got negative pressure. Maybe replace the cap with some other more permanent type of cap (one that doesn't have a little flip-top, if the ones they're including do, just a solid cap and then ship the flip-top one alongside it)? IDK. How is it coming apart in transit? It's not literally the plastic bottle breaking, is it?

This has got to be the packing, not the bottle. I have never heard of a bottle being shipped that suddenly broke on its own, without impact with its environment being the issue.