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AI companies have all kinds of arguments against paying for copyrighted content
  • In this context I meant that it was the same person doing a "normal" thing at such a scale that it becomes illegal. Scale absolutely is something that can turn something from legal to illegal.

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  • Pleases the gods' ego when they see they can make their followers do anything for shits and giggles.

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    AI companies have all kinds of arguments against paying for copyrighted content
  • Scale makes a difference, but it shouldn't make a legal difference w.r.t. the legality of the activity.

    What do you think the difference between normal internet traffic and a ddos attack is?

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    Interesting how artists don't make enough money from their creations, so our solution is to make certain information illegal to share, rather than give them a universal basic income.
  • You can't just use Capitalism to wash your hands of every amoral action. I mean... clearly you can, but you shouldn't. The fact that fair compensation is impossible is literally the reason why ai is getting (rightfully) shit on by so many people. The fact that huge vc funded corporations went "yeah we needed a lot of data, but it would have cost us way too much to get it ethically so we just swiped it" is disgusting and the reason ai should be shut down. It's so weird to me that so many anticapitalists have been enthralled by ai when they are made by huge companies that are profiting from work they stole... literally the capitalist wet dream. How exactly is that fighting against Capitalism?

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    Interesting how artists don't make enough money from their creations, so our solution is to make certain information illegal to share, rather than give them a universal basic income.
  • At the end of the day, its Capitalism stealing work from artists, not the machine.

    Fully agree on this.. but since we live in a capitalist system and until we don't anymore, it's still wrong.

    The images are made from scratch with techniques learned from the things it trained on.

    With no input (in the almost totality of cases) from the artist. None of the artists agreed to have their work being used to train the machine and if their work is being used for that they deserve to be compensated.

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    Interesting how artists don't make enough money from their creations, so our solution is to make certain information illegal to share, rather than give them a universal basic income.
  • Lemmy is full of people that have never created anything of value frothing at the mouth because they aren't entitled other people's creations. I wonder how long it would take them to change their tune if they actually created something worthwhile but got none of the recognition for it if IP laws didn't exist.

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    Interesting how artists don't make enough money from their creations, so our solution is to make certain information illegal to share, rather than give them a universal basic income.
  • Yep, totally correct. History is totally not full of artists creating despite their genius not being recognised socially and economically and dying poor and isolated. Clearly, the only way to stimulate artists is monetary compensation.

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    There's a TCG where you can actually TRADE cards? lol
  • I believe that it is possible for the creator of nfts to get a percentage of sales so maybe they could create a system that is still profitable for the company and player friendly.

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    There's a TCG where you can actually TRADE cards? lol
  • So just like hearthstone dusting? That system lead to rampant power powercreep to ensure that people would still be incenvised to buy new packs and not just coast on the free packs. Though if my memories of yugioh are still relevant powercreep (and very liberal use of banlists) is sort of already baked into the original game.

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