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'Andrew Tate phenomena' surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

news.sky.com 'Andrew Tate phenomena' surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

Online influencers such as Andrew Tate are fuelling an increase in sexism in the classroom, says a new survey from education union the NASUWT. It comes after the Netflix series Adolescence thrust concerns around incel culture into the spotlight.

Summary

Social media influencers are fuelling a rise in misogyny and sexism in the UK's classrooms, according to teachers.

More than 5,800 teachers were polled... and nearly three in five (59%) said they believe social media use has contributed to a deterioration in pupils' behaviour.

One teacher said she'd had 10-year-old boys "refuse to speak to [her]...because [she is] a woman". Another said "the Andrew Tate phenomena had a huge impact on how [pupils] interacted with females and males they did not see as 'masculine'".

"There is an urgent need for concerted action... to safeguard all children and young people from the dangerous influence of far-right populists and extremists."

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Let's not pretend like these children aren't having this behavior reinforced by their parents.
- The internet has made it quite easy for kids to develop an "inner life" that their parents have little to no awareness of, regardless of how attentive they are, though it's obviously worse if they are not.
  
  Guess what, it's your job as a parent to keep your kids off the Internet then.
  
  I developed an inner life, it was the only peace I could find from the daily assault that was my outer life. Sure in the past it was more visible habits like reading a book, but letting kids have some autonomy over their lives is important I feel
  
  You're totally right. Without that inner life we'd just be forced into being exactly like our parents because we wouldn't grow as individuals.
  I think the problem is when, hypothetically, that inner life that finds you first is a profit-driven hate-brewing death cult brought to you by an algorithm. Then these people "totally get you" and gives you a "community."
  I miss when those unsupervised inner life communities were mostly around hobbies or games or whatever to escape life drudgery and make real friends. MySpace wasn't about viral brainwashing campaigns, YouTube was mostly creation for fun's sake, and even with online games and such, we all knew there was a separation between "the Internet" and "Real Life(TM)".
  Everybody knew not to take the Internet seriously, because it was a place you went to escape everything else. Nothing really mattered on the internet.
  I think now people don't really see a separation. The Internet is real life, in the worst way.
  Now so much of it is a minefield of recruitment and manipulation to enlist in culture wars for clicks. There's labels and lifestyles that act as "funnels" and "pipelines" to increasingly toxic extreme identities that find "belonging" in being captive mindslaves and profit-cattle to any number of "influencers."
  
  Completely agree. The people I found online in those early days were just random people without any motive or incentive to sell me on an ideology. There was a trust back then, because opinions weren't really worth anything and no one could access your wallet.
  Finding that some community now is a total minefield for users, young or old. So much of the internet has been gamified for a profit/scam at any cost.
  I wish that kids could just connect with other random kids across the world like I did, but I think those days are likely done.
- That’s it. From what I hear (in Germany) is that the number of students with problematic behavior has increased, yes. That is something teachers can handle, if the parents cooperate or at the very least not interfere.
  Unfortunately the number of problematic parents has sharply risen as well. More seem to be taking a page out of the Trump playbook of never admitting anything and going on the offensive instead. They can become quite aggressive and belligerent when their kid faces consequences for their actions, especially if misogyny was involved.
  It’s impossible to help these students, if they act out behavior they see at home or, often enough, from their divorced fathers, and are encouraged for it.
- Behavioral issues start at home.
  
  Because the kids are digesting the content at home?
  
  Not necessarily, but in my experience with my friends' kids, the ones that are the most maladjusted are the ones with their faces buried in their phones all the time, and these are the same kids that were raised on iPads and YouTube all day. It's one thing to have an hour or two of screen time in a day, but the parents that don't limit it have the kids with the most behavioral problems.
- Where did the parents get it? Why did they get it? Why don't they know better?
  I'm not being cheeky. I want to know real answers to that shit.
  
  Since i have a kid with autism i notice how little other people with regular kids invest in them. When the kid starts to walk and talk at the age of two, they basically expect of them to act as adults, and I'm not exaggerating. After that kids get a minimal amount of time that parents address to them. Kids are given a phone too keep them not asking for parents attention, which is formative for their social and emotional skills. You don't learn that from other kids or Jake Paul. So it's a combination of shitty parenting and extremely toxic place where people spent hours every day. If you are a developing person it will fuck you up.
  
  As a Millennial that had young parents I was always dumbfounded by my peers’ boomer parents. It’s like they just went to work and treated their kids like an afterthought, and they were too stuck in their greedy consumer mindset and didn’t have a clue about what we consider today the most basic of tech.
  It’s not hard for me to imagine that my generation went on to raise kids poorly. I don’t have children myself but I’ve seen plenty of people my age raising them.
  
  We're raising kids now who raise themselves
  
  You paint a picture I'm familiar with, but didn't experience firsthand. You were my friends and acquaintances I grew up with.
  I'm late Gen X/Millennial cusp. The oldest of three siblings, both of whom are squarely Millenials. I got computers, but I also enjoyed formative years without them. My parents are boomers, and were not perfect, but I feel like I got the right stuff from them.
  I don't have kids. In the 90s when I was a teenager, I saw the writing on the wall and decided never to have children.
- Let's not pretend that this is real news instead of phony clickbait from Sky effing News.

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