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Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers

www.pcgamer.com Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers

The Fallout and Elder Scrolls developer is a union shop now.

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Thank fuck for that. With any luck the better conditions will even give them the power to push back on management if management demands something stupid be added to a game.

In an industry as notoriously dreadful as game development, every bit of quality of life counts.

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Hell yeah. Hopefully this will improve the quality of their games as well

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Maybe they can start making good games again

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- Nah man, I want the same tired design as we’ve had for the better part of twenty years!
  
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  I COULD EAT SWEETROLLS ALL MY LIFE
  
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- How are the decisions taken by the highier-ups related to workers unionizing?
  
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✊

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In other news, Microsoft shuts down Bethesda game studios...

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- Microsoft has actually voluntarily recognized a gaming company union before. It seems they prefer to voluntarily recognize the unions and then fight them during the contract phase, not sure exactly why they do it this way instead of trying to stonewall the first step like most companies.
  
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  Maybe they try are trying to avoid some additional scrutiny by letting the union exist?
  
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  Companies can leverage CBAs to "fix" pay scales well below CPI or other metrics by forcing extensive negotiation as a way to sell down an agreement. Similarly, they can use agreements to create separate classes, for example: the SAG/AFTRA agreement for voice actors with all the Gen AI exemptions.
  
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Fuck todd

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Fuck yeah

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I wonder where a union draws its power from in an industry where there are so many people desperate for work right now.

Trade unions make sense because there’s such a shortage of skilled workers in total, much less scabs. How does a union for such a well known legacy game developer sustain itself in an environment where I bet scabs would be in abundance?

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- Maybe for Bethesda specifically, there's also a shortage of skilled work? I mean, they often hire modders and Creation Engine STILL uses flash (Starfield's menus are .swf files),
  
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  Creation Engine STILL uses flash (Starfield’s menus are .swf files),
  
  YOOOOOO WHAT THE FUUUUCK.
  
  Seriously, how hard is it to change the UI to use JS?? They really go through old ass Adobe documentation whenever they make a new menu with AS3????
  
  I seriously hope it's all AS and compiled to SWF, if they're running some fucked version of Adobe Flash to make the swfs by hand, 💀
  
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  Yea, they probably have that one guy still there from the days creation engine was made that is required to be on staff for any future games to fix whatever archaic code they break. Get him on board with the union and Bethesda is probably held by the short hairs to do whatever they say.
  
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- I wonder where a union draws its power from in an industry where there are so many people desperate for work right now.
  
  With more than 450 employees, you can't really replace all that on the fly.
  
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Their games are shit - Starfailed was garbage, Fallout 3 and 4 are running on the same engine designed for... Oblivion 20 years ago. They can't write jack shit, and the optimization is a joke.

I hope they go bankrupt

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- “I don’t personally like their games so I hope all of the hundreds of employees working on them lose their jobs and their families are devastated by life changing hardship”
  
  I think you missed the exit for Reddit, it was back there a ways.
  
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- I think their games are great. And I think the Creation Engine is great, the amount of immersion I get and amount of hours I spend playing fallout, oblivion, Skyrim, morrowind is second to none. The mod support is endless, they were in a league of their own when it came to RPGs
  
  Granted they have slipped a little (okay alot) lately but that doesn't take away from their past works.
  
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  You can think the creation engine is great, but there are simple issues that should have been fixed decades ago they've completely ignored. At this point it should be considered an insult to the player base that there needs to be the "unofficial patch" for all games. It would take more time and effort arguing against fixing them, than actually fixing them.
  
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  Creation Engine is great
  
  It's objectively not. It was great back when Oblivion came out
  
  oblivion, Skyrim, morrowind
  
  Back then their games were good. But it was long, long time ago.
  
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- Can you take your shit back to reddit please?
  
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- "Fortnite and Tekken 8 are running on the same engine designed for... Unreal Tournament 20 years ago."
  
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