Fediverse situation right now

They already have a platform It's called 4chan
- And Voat and Gab and Truth

Nazi leemings.... Go fuck yourself!

Some real controversial hot take right here
- It was a play on "nazi punks fuck off" and "Russian Warship, Go Fuck Yourself". But have it you're way.

Just let them have their of naziverse. I don't want to see it.

I’m a bit out of loop, are there more info to share about?
- There's a lemmy server where a lot of alt-right and more extreme views have sub-lemmys. It got defederated by Lemmy.World and others and now they're upset that most people on other servers don't get to see their hate-speech.

Is there a running list of bigot instances that I can block?

Ah yes, block entire instances en masse without the hassle of actually making the decision yourself, that would be nice
- Nazi's deserve to be named, shamed, and ignored.
- I run my own instance so that i can take a little control over the drivel that scrolls past my eyes. Far right ideologies don't deserve a platform or an audience.

I hope the nazis do stay out because I was really excited for voat for about a day until it became nazi town

You can't hope they stay out. Admins and moderators have to take active steps to push them out. I want to give some kudos to lemmy.world for getting out in front of this, and I want to name and shame sh.itjust.works for having a vote in their agora community almost a week ago and then proceeding to do nothing
- Moderating is time consuming, tedious and done by volunteers. I'm not surprised that they get overrun after the latest influx of users.
I received a modest amount of downvotes on the big R for saying something similar.
I also commented (well, asked a rhetorical question but definitely got answers) here a couple of days ago that places that claim to be for free thought and expression tend to be full of either harmful garbage or nonsense conspiracy theories.
All it's going to take is one instance that isn't defederated with a jailbait community or someone with a poorly trained militia planning an act of terrorism to get Lemmy or kbin painted with the "great place for pedos" or "Nazi haven" brush.
- I think the thing that makes lemmy and kbin difficult concepts for normies will also protect it from blanket association with nazis if one instance is infiltrated. Most people don't fully understand the distinction between the shared protocol and a site's domain.
  People might think "lemmy is full of nazis", but it won't mean anything to them if I say i'm hanging out on midwest.social. To them it'll just sound like a regional blog website.

Yeah extreme ideologies are bad, but instead of talking left vs right, which is pointless as you are trying to comp genocidal maniacs against eachother. They are all totalitarian evil, we put extra labels on so we can pick sides.
how about we consider why groups want control over your life. The left cares for society and group rights, the right cares for individual rights. I could argue the value of both, but we are overpopulated and the desires of the individual shouldn't be valued greater than that of a society, our environment, quality of life, right to health and security from violence and economic greed. Im not saying the left is good at what they do but at least they try to manage the mess instead of arrogantly assuming market forces, churches or the metaphysical can or will solve peoples unnecessary suffering.
Neither of those are denied by anyone here, shoo

Keep the Nazis out. with flames and force is necessary. Both online & in real life.

Who knew distributed social media would be such a good idea

Put all the Nazis in one Instance. Then, defederate them.
- Provide the URL to the hate crimes division and the January 6th panel
- Love to "defederate" Nazis
  :)

Good

Fuck the nazis

Lemmy in!

The tankies have been here for a while so it's only a matter of time.

Tankies aren't nearly as harmful as Nazis, they don't make communities unsafe. You can disagree with a tankie and that's the end of it. With Nazis, it's completely different.
- it's all socialism to me

They probably won’t ever stay fully out, since anyone can make an instance, just up to mods and individuals to block them and not federate with obvious natzi communities.

Utopia has always been a process, never a destination. You will never be able to elect humans that will act in your interests forever. You must stay alert and aware of the happenings around you and constantly advocate for yourself and those who can't.

Fuck fascism mkay

some of you need to stop calling everything you don't like a nazi

what a weird thing to say
Pretty bold comment considering many of the people are actual swastika-waving Nazis. Stop defending them.
- i don't think any of you have so much as peeked over there

Except instead of Nazis (?!?!) it's corporations.

That's frequently the same thing.
- Seriously, it's ridiculous. Why is nobody holding Google accountable for the Holocaust?

Lol thats perfect. Link for the uninitiated:

https://lemmy.world/post/694810

Left wingers and calling everyone that slightly disagrees with them "literally hitler" name a better duo.

"We want to kill minorities" is not a difference of opinion.
Allowing actual Nazis to have a platform in a public space is Nazism.
You’re just salty because you don’t like when people call you out on it. Just go join their instance and be among your peers and leave everyone else alone.
- Allowing actual Nazis to have a platform in a public space is Nazism.
  Exaclty. "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” - Desmond Tutu

as a jewish person.. all i have to say is what the fuc

It's the internet, there's Nazis everywhere. I got to see how they work (on the internet) because they converted a long time acquaintance of mine. I'm going to start working on some mod tools to help shut their bullshit down once work stops being a shitnado.
- Sorry to hear about your acquaintance. Fuck nazi and thank you we need people to make sure we keep them the fuck out. Fuck nazi and I believe it's only time punching someone wouldn't be considered violent since to me a nazi isn't a person our worth being considered human. But fucking monsters.
There's not really nazis, at least not many. People on the internet view right leaning views as literal nazis these days.
- Found the Nazi. Get the fuck out of here.
- Except they are

A lot of people seem to just call people they've barely interacted with a nazi wtf

the comments, man. you people are a bunch of maoists

Huge drama surrounding instances that have a major far-right presence and certain instances cutting connections (defederating), while others aren't (staying federated).
- I like how someone put it in another thread. From the "defederaters," The argument most seen is: "if there's a nazi at the table and you say nothing, it's a table full of nazis." The most common counter-argument is "it's actually like a stadium full of people with some nazi's in the corner jerking themselves off." From the "federators," the most common argument is "defederation defeats decentralization," and the most common counter to this is simply: "fuck off nazi!"
  I find the whole situation quite extraordinary to see unfold and be a part of.

Out of the loop. Can someone give me a short explanation?

Like always, the intolerant people expect to be tolerated, and when they aren't they bitch about free speech
Sorry for hijacking your comment, it's the first one that popped up for me when I opened this thread.
If you're just discovering this post, trust me, it's not worth reading. The comments are 50% nazis and 50% morons. There is no discourse ahead, only name calling, denouncing, whataboutism, and some really fucked up thoughts and people. You don't need this in your day. You already know that nazis are bad, and nazis aren't the only bad people. Go to illegallysmolcats instead
The instance at exploding-heads.com got defederated from by a lot of instances and among them the largest one lemmy.world
It happened due to them allowing hatespeech like "tranny faggot". Top post now is complaining about how the rest is sensitive libs and in the same breath call "Joe Biden is a pedo". They're throwing a tantrum about how they're getting cancelled because they can't smell the shit under their own shoe.
- It's not necessary to repeat the hate speech they got defederated over, you can just say "transphobic/homophobic slurs".

activitypub is bad and dumb