12 mo. ago • 93%

How it feels like

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Sorry, I'm gonna be that person.

*What. It should say What it feels like.

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- Thanks English is not my native language.
  
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  Just for the sake of information, the two common ways to put this in English are "How it feels" and "What it feels like". The former phrase is just descriptive, so it doesn't need the "like" at the end. The latter phrase is comparative to another thing, so it needs the like. Also this is something that native speakers mix up all the time, so don't worry too much; your English is great!
  
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  Der Name Sören ist definitiv ein Hinweis darauf :D
  
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  You can edit titles
  
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- Or "How it feels"
  
  I feel like there's been a gradual increase in people saying things like this ("would of" instead of "would've", "apart" instead of "a part", etc)
  
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  I guess it's just the increase in the ease of availability of internet.
  
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i found out about htmx just yesterday and I was blown away. i think it’s an amazing idea, really

for small projects that you want to make in less than an eternity it should be very convenient

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I don't get it. In my opinion React is like the worst of the bunch...

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- When it came out in its time it wasn't bad compared to the alternatives. Now there is certainly better, but honestly it will still take a long time before we can choose a standard.
  
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  Now that would be something, developers choosing a standard.
  
  mandatory xkcd
  
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- Could you elaborate?
  
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  Well, I have worked with two of them React and Angular. Now working with React. And the further the project goes, things just get messy, and I mean really messy. The concept of everything should be a small function is in practice not true. No dependency injection(I know you can bolt another library on top of it, but really?). The testing is a pain, it gets harder and harder to test isolated functions. Custom tags, attributes that look like the standards that are documented at MDN but are not. And most info I can find online feels like elaborate propaganda. I mean there is just nothing against React to be found, really nothing. That's just not possible in IT.
  
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  React and Vue feel on par with each other at least
  
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- I have tried some angular, threw up when I looked at JSX so skipped React and do a lot of Vue, Vue is by far the best of the 3. especially 3 with reusables and better TS support.
  
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  That was my experience until I tried Svelte. I loved Vue but didn't like the transition to Vue 3. When I tried Svelte it blew me away and I never looked back.
  
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I... kinda find htmx to be better than all other options.

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- It is
  
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  Depends on the use case tbh, but it's a good choice in a lot of cases.
  
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I was genuinely confused why people were talking about xhtml again this year.

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Angular can go to hell.

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- What's wrong little man, can't handle a little boilerplate?
  
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  Sorry I can't hear you over all those observables
  
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  So...dense... Can't... Move...
  
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- Angular past version 1*
  
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  1.x was so magical and productive. I truly miss it.
  
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PHP sitting in the corner, off screen

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- PHP is powering a LAMP
  
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- I’m confused as to what PHP has to do with JavaScript front-end frameworks.
  
  Was it just for a quick laugh and a jab at PHP because it’s an easy target or have I misunderstood that these all use JavaScript
  
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  I’m confused as to what PHP has to do with JavaScript front-end frameworks.
  
  PHP deserves honorable mention here as the "it's not stupid if it works" of the JavaScript framework world. Everything* JavaScript frameworks can accomplish can also be done (much worse) with static HTML delivered by PHP.
  
  *Please no one give me examples that cannot be done without JavaScript. Trust me, I know. But any business requirement can be met with plain HTML if you really deeply hate your end users enough.
  
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  what PHP has to do with JavaScript front-end frameworks.
  
  Everything. Sitting in the corner, munching and handing out cookies to people who don't want any.
  
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  PHP (and jQuery)
  
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- *Bootstrap
  
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I'm still on DHTML, ActiveX, and SSIs

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- Fabulous memories. IE 4 and XML data islands too?
  
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  Nah we're all about Frontpage Extensions.
  
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Alright, have to ask: what are those icons?

I think I know Vue and Angular.

What is the S? And what is the atom like thing on the left?

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- react vue angular svelte htmx
  
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  My stupid brain thought the s was squarespace.... And now for our sponsor...
  
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I think, Svelte should not salute to React (anymore). Not sure what htmx brings to the table, but Svelte should be doing the same like the Penguin labeled "htmx", because it really frees devs from doing too much stuff to get started and produces fast webpages on top of that.

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