Its a stalemate. JD Vance accomplished what he needed to rally Republicans to this cause. Which is to shit on the moderators and make it sound like Walz and the Moderators are in cahoots. Worse, this kind of meta-debate is on-brand for the Republican strategy.
This is why fact-checking is so hard, because when you do it wrong it solidifies a huge number of Americans against the fact-checker and can even rally them to JD Vance's side.
has CBS explained why the moderators intervened and fact checked him? I'm going to assume some laywers stepped in and said, "We can't air that. We'll be sued to oblivion."
but also, like, Saying "we're not" and then doing it certainly feeds into the narrative that they were trying to help Walz. at least in republican minds.
He definitely was not wearing mascara. He may have been wearing extra makeup to occlude his dreamy eyelashes, wait, I thought this was a funny way to go. These fascists such as Vance and Trump hate freedom. They hate personal autonomy.
I thought Vance won the debate (mostly through Gish galloping), but I'm not sure it's going to matter. The big moment of the evening was him being muted for aggressively talking over two women, and it wasn't a great look. I'm sure it played well to Trump's base of incels who hate journalists, but I doubt anyone else found it very appealing.
I loved that they repeatedly tried to get him to stop talking so they could talk but he kept going, got muted, and you could still hear him continuing to talk in the background, and when he realized he was muted he got louder in the background to try to be heard by more microphones anyway