Transphobia in the fediverse

lol when are you gonna "get to" this one?

I'd say "and it isn't close" is a bit disingenuous when instances like beehaw and blahaj exist.

Admins indeed can deal with these users, by deleting their content from their instances, and banning them from the site, if they are homed on that specific instance they get banned everywhere when that happens. So it can be dealt with but it takes work from our admins, and since these are communities run by real people and not monolithic corporations, we can speak up and make a difference. Reach out to these admins who are real people.

or lemmy.ca because they are not well run instances without any oversight to their users and it’s mostly spam.

Any specific issues with Lemmy.ca? The admins always seemed quite reactive and reasonable

disables downvotes because they are all spam as well.

Not really, I come across posts from your instance sometimes and I downvote because I disagree. Though now I know that was futile.

Sure I can provide some examples:

I just wish they wouldn't force their gender and pronouns onto other people

Translation: Doesn't believe trans people are valid and doesn't think people should respect our preferred pronouns

I just think that they need to keep it to themselves and leave kids out of it

Translation: Doesn't believe we should exist in public, that we are a threat to children by virtue of being transgender.

It's important to protect women's spaces

Translation: Trans women shouldn't be allowed to use the same spaces cis women use

There's also more subtle ones such as people referring to cis women as real women, or referring to the transgender movement as gender ideology. The first one is wrong because trans women are real women, and the second one is wrong because transgender isn't a religion or organization like a church. They are calling it an ideology so they can pretend there is an institution to fight against, in reality transgender people just exist and want to live our lives.

I do not think the future of the fediverse lies in general purpose instances but that said, IMO Beehaw is the gold standard of a general purpose instance.

Most people who are transphobic know what they are doing, I'm certain the people I saw do. They're not going to change, they need to be given the boot to protect our communities from becoming Nazi bars.

Just as well, the Lemmy.world one was filled with transphobes and transphobia apologists. No progress to be made there unfortunately.

Lemmy.world might be a lost cause, maybe defederation of .world should be more widely considered...

Typical LW L. From the mods literally admitting to being anti-Marxist to failing to protect trans users, LW is sowing its own destruction.

everyone here are transgender communists.

Hexbear has the largest weekly trans megathread in the entire fediverse, a supermajority of non-cishet users, has hard-coded mandatory pronoun tags, and aggressively bans racism, bigotry and transphobia on sight. It is, hands down, the most trans-inclusive space in the fediverse, as evidenced by a recent user poll in which 90% of respondents agreed, Hexbear is a place that protects its trans users.

They may be aggressive in their methods but they are one of if not the most trans friendly servers in the fediverse. Mostly because they ban people for bigotry and apologists of transphobes. I mean you are a cis person, saying that a space is unfriendly to transphobes because they are a bit on the aggressive side and ban people for bigotry that is real but you don't see or understand why it is bigotry. It really isn't your place to tell us trans people that a space meant for trans people is unfriendly to trans people.

Calling out transphobia is division? Just curious what part of the lgbtqia2s+ community are you?

You are extremely self centered in how you see the world. There are as many people in the world and in the fediverse that would say kick you out because you don’t have their best interests at heart.

Wanting basic respect to not have my existence and rights debated or denied is not self-centered, kindly go fuck off if you think it is. If me being transgender and wanting basic respect, and not having my existence and identity denied doesn't "have their best interests at heart" they can fuck off, because they are nazis and bigots who don't have my or my minority brethren's best interests at heart. This isn't asking for special treatment, this is asking to not have my existence and identity denied. Something that cishet people take for granted.

Folks this is an example of one of these dogwhistles I pointed out, trying to claim that wanting basic respect as a person and the way I identify is somehow self-centered. Fact is LGBTQ people just want to exist without prejudice or having their existence and validity debated, that isn't an unreasonable ask and yet there are people who will screetch and whine when simply being asked to show respect, not even told, asked.

I think you touched on a great point: there are people who do not want to participate in a discussion; they’d rather make their statements, and then have nothing to do with anyone who disagrees with them at any level.

People have forgotten that “to argue” means to, “give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view…”

And just because someone doesn’t immediately or fully agree with you does not make them your enemy, or necessarily mean they’re a bad person. Sure, there are people who would argue in bad faith, and those people should certainly not be tolerated. But there are also people who are here in good faith, attempting to have honest conversations.