Tankies can't understand why they're losing members

That place is just 4chan for commies, isn't it?

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Basically except they don't use anonymous accounts like 4chan does, I imagine it would be even worse if they did.

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- they'd get their feelings hurt with mean words
  
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I question if they're even communists, considering most commie-spaces throw them out, and I've never actually seen them talk about communism in the modern day.

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- Marxist-leninist is the term they use (.ml) which should be called stalinism as that's it's ideological father.
  
  If called out they can confront with huge diatribes with often ready maar copy pastes from red sails.
  
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Yes

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No! It's actually a real fun and friendly place.

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- bwwaaark... bwark bwark bwark. lots of fun here fellas! join in!
  
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I wonder if it's because they realize that roleplaying revolutionaries does nothing to advance the working class, and that the main job right now is to pull the populace left and organize labor so there CAN be a sustainable socialist future, not to live out your wildest ML fantasies where you get to shoot all the anarchists and exile all the Whites?

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I think it's more apt to say they roleplay the working class. I've found most of them are just rich, bored kids

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- They certainly all sound like 12 year olds.
  
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-Hates anyone who isn’t a complete believer in the “cause” -Praises genocidal countries like USSR and China who killed millions -Absolute dicks and generally people who irritate others “wHY DoES nO ONe LIkE uS?1?1”

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I've read the screen copy and can't see any reference to "genocidal countries" at all (BTW you forgot Israel, didn't you?). They are just telling the american way of life won't cope with inequity, climate change and other countries wanting to live the same way, and centrist lefitism is not enough to change things...

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- I hate all genocides.
  
  Unlike tankies.
  
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- I've read the screencopy and can't see any reference to America.
  
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- I’m not saying Israel isn’t genocidal, cause it most definitely is. I’m saying that tankies support for other genocidal countries is evil. Also hypocritical seeing how they support one genocidal regime and against another.
  
  If that last sentence is all that tankies believed in, this community wouldn’t exist. People aren’t against tankies because they’re against the problems we face, it’s because they hate the American regime so much that they see the Chinese and Russian regimes as a better option despite them all being terrible
  
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- you can view multiple posts throughout this community where they praise genocides
  
  and again, man, what is it with people always trying to find anything they can to squeeeeze in israel and palestine. like bruh, come on, you're more obnoxious than preachers on a train.
  
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It sounds miserable to be them

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Yeah I don't get how people can be so hateful of everything

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Meanwhile, I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone would want to be communist rather than being a libertarian socialist or anarchist. Unless they think that they're the ones that will be telling people what to do, rather than be the ones getting told what to do?

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These ones love authoritarianism far more than they like leftist economics, so yeah I suspect that's it.

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They go around calling people bootlickers. That’s projection. They fantasize about cozying up to Stalin and his jackbooted thugs. It’s the same fantasy as the one shared by Curtis Yarvin, Peter Thiel, and their neofeudalist followers. Same goes for all the MAGA morons, the Putinist Z radicals, the 50 cent army, and countless other authoritarian groups.

The world is a very complicated, dangerous, and frankly scary place right now. When people are unable to cope with all the uncertainty they reach for a strongman. This leaves the rest of us Ambiguity tolerant folks to actually try to deal with all the insanity, or to keep our heads down.

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- Beautifully put. Never considered it's projection but that makes so much sense why they exclusively praise dictators as opposed to activists
  
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M-Ls generally hold to the idea that revolution is necessary and M-L is, pretty indisputably, the most successful ideology at launching a worker's revolution.

Keeping Da Revolushion socialist is something I assume they think they'll be able to do a better job at, if they're not just in full on tankie denial.

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- Yeah, I got downvoted once the MLs found my comment (in a .world thread) for wondering why far leftists were so convinced that the only answer was socialism (as opposed to soc dem) when we haven't seen it work very well in the real world. I guess Cuba and China are good enough examples for them to be fully convinced that we shouldn't emulate Scandinavia, because that's built on oppression and China isn't, or something like that.
  
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- Trust me bro, let's do this revolution what can go wrong 🤡
  
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Yeah, I'm also libertarian and generally a bit to the left of mainstream libertarianism, and I honestly don't understand why anyone would legitimately be on the more authoritarian end of the spectrum.

I appreciate that just plugging in libertarianism today could be bad, but surely most people want fewer people telling them what to do, right?

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- You would think. I mean, that's the whole principle behind things like reproductive rights, or LGBTQ+ rights, isn't it? The freedom to control your own body without the government telling you what you can and can't do with it, as long as you aren't directly harming someone else? And yet. Ignore the fact that Stalin et al. almost always had purges of LGBTQ+ people, and that the rights of women were--and are in current Russia--sharply curtailed.
  
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- I don't like libertarians
  
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- I lean authleft because it's too easy to manipulate people into voting against their interests.
  
  I don't like Libertarians.
  
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I tried to read that shit and am definitely dumber for it.

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"Brown People"

Least racist Tankie

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I read it as specifically criticising NIMBYs and suburban redlining/urban sprawl.

Because obviously that's what turning people off, not their full throated support of Putin's invasion and "protest voting" to put a fascist in office.

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