What is your opinion on bans issued for things that happen to someone due to things that take place outside their jurisdiction, and what's the last or most memorable time it has happened to you?
What is your opinion on bans issued for things that happen to someone due to things that take place outside their jurisdiction, and what's the last or most memorable time it has happened to you?
Even as someone who tends to play along with bans, this seems like a weird concept. I'm referring to those moments you walk into a club or a service one day and the people in charge say something along the lines of "you're banned from our establishment because we learned you're an artist that deals with controversial subject matter" or "we banned you because we heard that was you who engaged in those reckless activities that sent that one person to need care".
We barely are able to enforce the Hague convention, so it makes me wonder what the mindset is when people try to take this on, as outside your jurisdiction, something could potentially be of any kind of context, as rules, etiquette, and protocol can differ enough between clubs and services that it's almost as if the laws of physics can sometimes seem to differ.
One day, I witnessed a conversation between some rule enforcers and someone I know, and the suspicious rule enforcers asked why the individual so often likes to remain as low a profile as possible, and the individual responded "if I was as open about myself to everyone as everyone else is with each other, the amount of restrictions I'd have would quintuple due to the sheer amount of people who have grown a habit of hating me for no ethical reason whatsoever", which also drags the issue of openness into the conversation.
Or... or maybe I'm wrong and/or am missing something. What's your opinion on this practice? And what stands out to you as the last or most notable time this happened?
What?
17I thinknOP got kicked out of somewhere and is unhappy about it.
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Cultivate your community or become the nazi bar. Removing people well known for being bad is a good thing. All those other reddit alternatives failed because the dregs decided to make those places their new home and no one kicked them out, so no one that could keep those sites healthy ever came into the communities. The only time it doesn't go down this way is when there is no other alternatives.
Side note: based entirely on that single sentence i wouldn't let your friend into any bar of mine either, anyone who says that is either way too much of a childish edgelord or an actual horrible person.
11Lol a normal person would just say they value privacy. (Well, most people don't. But a normal person who cares about privacy.)
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If a club knows that you have "art" screaming the N word or something, ignoring that it makes you a bad person, it also very easily can be relevant to their actual business of providing a safe environment with some specific atmosphere if other patrons recognize you.
Is that an extreme version of "controversial art"? Sure. But the way you're presenting it sure sounds like something like that is a possibility, and there are plenty of other "controversial" things you can do that similarly instigate shit.
7It depends on the context of the ban.
I'm okay with ostracizing shitty people and I don't think there needs to be empirical law defining what makes someone shitty.
6Just taking out the trash.
1Be specific:
What would be a 'thing' in your weird world?
What would be a 'ban' in your weird world?
What would be a 'jurisdiction' in your weird world?
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