the empty logic of the Republicans
the empty logic of the Republicans
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It looks to me like this war is pretty cheap on both American lives, and on the American taxpayers' pocketbook.
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It's almost like the real reason they are against aid for Ukraine is that they just parrot whatever their media outlets put out, and they put out being against aid for Ukraine because they want Russia to win and they want lower taxes and reduced regulation for themselves. It's almost like conservatives are really fucking gullible so long as you pretend you're on their side and point at somebody for them to blame.
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The weirdest part to me is how “support the troops” is always a priority for most in the group opposing Ukrainian support. In fact, military support is usually so critical that they can set aside many of their primary targets of small government and fiscal responsibility.
I get that this isn’t the “our” troops they usually chant about, but it easily could be, especially if Russia continues its aggressive action. It doesn’t seem that it’s that hard to understand that if you’re willing to give the US military nearly a trillion dollars, it isn’t a bad idea to give support to a country actively fighting against this threat.
I guess it really does just come down to people convinced that Russia is somehow not a threat to the US, even though the leaders of “our troops” feel differently.
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"Well clearly I can't be held responsible for my life's problems, it must be the fault of disenfranchised minorities."
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And pretty profitable for the military complex which finally is used for a good cause. Didn't these republicans receive their yearly lobby cheque?
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Must've bounced, I guess. Ammo isn't exactly cheap to make.
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Your current crop of Republicans don't really care about the US or American values - they want to live in a Margret Attwood novel.
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“It’s not rape if it’s for America”
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The war is cheap in all terms (expect Ukrainian's). I believe most of the dollar numbers you see includes equipment value when they were going to be scrapped anyway. The accountants have to give it a fair dollar value, but in practical terms it's zero.
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Any Republican against giving aid to Ukraine is essentially a Russian asset.
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You spelled ass-hat wrong
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It's the same picture
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One has to be a truly deplorable piece of human garbage to say “The war is cheap in terms of American lives”. This is basically an admission that Americans don't give a fuck about the lives of Ukrainians and re cynically using them as a proxy to fight Russia. Americans continue to expose themselves as the scum of the earth that they are.
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Don't care about them? We have donated BILLIONS in equipment
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We haven’t donated shit: it’s all being done through lend-lease. The Ukrainians will be be paying back the massive debt for generations, assuming the country even survives.
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Yeah to try and advance your own geopolitical position. The actions of your regime resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and a whole country being destroyed all so you chuds could try and weaken Russia in some way. You are utterly deplorable.
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Crazy idea, how about we have a few years where we aren't involved in some war?
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Wouldn't it be nice if all these tyrants like Putin would just stay in their own homes...?
If only it were that simple to look the other way from your neighbor getting attacked and raped.
As if such persons ever stop after their first successful house...
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Oh man, maybe if there was some agreeement between Russia and Ukraine that avoided war, it could even be negotiated in a third country, maybe in Minsk? That could have been a great way to avoid war, too bad nothing like that happened. Imagine if NATO even broke such treaty? Would be too far fetched even Call of Duty haha
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I didn't know Ukraine was a neighbour of the US, or maybe you are talking metaphorically in the sense of "our white supremacists pals/neighbours".
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Europe can intervene then
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whatabout whatabout whatabout ad infinitum
Funny that when liberals do it they get upvoted to the stars; let it get turned on them tho lmfao...
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They told us the kinds of people they were when they said "some lives would have to be lost for the economy". At the time, they were talking about COVID. You see just how quick that pivots to the military-industrial complex when western "liberal" dronies feel they have a self-justified underclass to aim at.
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Bonus points if the Korean War also ends
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Alternative is we just print another 80billion while simultaneously trying to curb inflation. Good plan!
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What a fucked up meme, do you warmonger much?
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This meme is such a dumbass lib take. A broken clock... Just because Republicans came to the conclusion that the war should end for the wrong reasons doesn't mean that the conclusion is wrong. We should all be pushing for negotiations and an end to the bloodshed. You dronies have become absolutely insufferable. If you're so pro-war, then why don't you volunteer and head to the frontline? Slava my anus!
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You're talking about the war that Putin just said Russia never started, right? That war? The one that Putin has refused negotiations to stop multiple times?
I just want to make sure you're commenting on the same war the rest of the world is talking about.
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Why should Ukraine ask for anything less than the full withdraw of Russian forces from inside their borders?
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Why should Russia settle for anything less than an end to the cleansing of ethnic Russians in Ukraine? They tried to negotiate an end to this, but the US admitted that the agreement was just to buy time in order to arm Ukraine.
Ukraine can ask for a quadrillion dollars in compensation, but it doesn't mean that it's going to happen. Russia is completely in control of this conflict and if the bloodshed is going to end, the Ukrainian state needs a fucking reality check in order to come to terms with the fact they they're going to need to make some concessions.
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Thank you for not being a sociopathic war monger.
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Says the conservative.
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"The war is cheap in terms of American lives" is a right wing, nationalist sentiment. "American" lives dont have any more value than any other lives.
Sure, but the American government's entire point is to collect American taxes and provide benefits for Americans. To minimize monetary cost and maximize benefit to American lives is exactly what it should be doing.
Wait, are you telling me that nations are oriented around nationalism?
This is why I'm for stateless global communism
That's not how global politics work. Your idealism is extreme.
"Capitalism seems inescapable, so to did the divine rights of kings" -Le Guin