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Don't let Democrats rewrite Dianne Feinstein's infuriating final chapter

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"On Sept. 29, Dianne Feinstein, 90, died of natural causes. She had cast a vote in the Senate less than a day prior."
Banger first two sentences. As an observer not from the US, this feels like Emperors New Clothes to me. But instead of a naked emperor, you have paraded a corpse through the senate and acted as if she was a fighter like Xena, Warrior Princess or something.
- As a Californian, I’ll say its been feeling damn near “Weekend and Bernie’s” for months now.
  I dunno who was actually casting her votes, but I doubt they were aligned with what the people of my state would have wanted.
- We need to stop allowing folks to remain in power after the age of like 65.
  
  I am in favour of both age and term limits for politicians. For one, if regular people are supposed to retire at 65ish and realistically often struggle to find work once they go past their 40s, there is no reason why politicians should be allowed to stay in their jobs through their 70s and sometimes 80s.
  And I am in favour of term limits because it would keep the career politicians out of the game. Very few of them are any good.
  
  I agree that we need younger people in these positions. We need those more in touch with what the average person is going through these days.
  However, I disagree that we should set a hard age limit. If anything have them take some sort of cognitive exam every few years once they hit a certain age.
- Natural causes my ass. Cunt had dementia and they kept her around for power ever one of her votes for the last 3 years should be invalidated.
  
  for power ever one of her votes for the last 3 years should be invalidated.
  I think you missed one letter and a dot there.
  Are we at stage "invalidating votes of senile old coots" yet? Have you SEEN how many crusty bastards are in there? I'd say the Dems would LOVE this as the demographic helps them immensely.
  
  Reagan “governed” with Alzheimer’s?
  
  Something awful must have happened to you as a child to refer to an old lady you’ve never met that way. IDGAF about politics. Have some respect for your damned self.
- Weekend at Bernie’s. The film, not Sanders.

It's been bizarre watching everyone claim she's a senile old bat who should've stepped down decades ago, to hearing everyone praise how devoted she was. It's been a very disappointing journey for sure, the stuff of "boring dystopia" posts.
- Memorials would not be very pleasant if we only remembered people as they were in their final days
  
  Memorials would be very uncomfortable if people told the truth instead of pufffing eachother up with hot hair and bullshit.
  
  I think being a public figure that put her position ahead of the needs of the public she supposedly served gives her an exemption from the "peaceful words for the dead rule"
  
  She was a piece of shit the whole time.
- It’s an old etiquette thing about not speaking ill of someone but present to defend themselves. There are exceptions, imo, but I’m not Emily Post.

Lest we forget she was a consummate centrist.
We should remember her for her actions through her career as a politician. Where she stood on equality, lgbtq+ rights, the death penalty, government surveillance... How she used her position in the Senate to enrich herself through means not allowed by commoners.
There are a lot of shit bags in government. And one less doesn't change that. But let's not paint her as a champion of anything but herself just because she's dead.

This sounds like some Ruth Bader Ginsberg shit.
You can't criticize someone now that they're dead despite wanting to cling to power over pride and legacy!
Yes, yes we can. And anyone who enabled that shit should take a good hard look into themselves and get the fuck out of politics.

We have age minimums because the mind has not finished developing and we should also have age maximums based on the average age cognitive decline sets in.
Until we are able to properly identify outliers it's probably best to stick with the subset of the population with the highest probability of meeting the minimum qualifications for the position.

Final? She was always a shithead.

Been a lot of whitewashing lately of people like Feinstein, Biden and Pelosi. And it seems like you can't even criticize them or you get called a Trumper.
- Biden is not even in the same league of asshattery as Pelosi and Feinstein, despite a long career and being in the Executive twice. I’ll never forget Pelosi talking down to a high school student who asked her a question about economic equity—I don’t remember the kid’s question, but her response is seared into my brain. She got pissy and said “America is a capitalist country” like capitalism was handed down from god on high or enshrined in the Constitution. It was contemptuously delivered, to a degree as bad as I once heard Rick Santorum speak to a student who asked him about LGBTQ rights.
  Feinstein was a regressive in a lot of ways, perhaps she escaped being labeled a DINO because her votes were more important than her sometimes asinine rhetoric.
  
  I’ll never forget Pelosi talking down to a high school student who asked her a question about economic equity—I don’t remember the kid’s question, but her response is seared into my brain. She got pissy and said “America is a capitalist country” like capitalism was handed down from god on high or enshrined in the Constitution.
  Here's the clip: https://youtu.be/MR65ZhO6LGA
- You'll find, historically, Dems question themselves a lot more on average. As "Dems need to fall in love" with the party plan, they end up asking way more questions than the "GoPniks need to fall in line" bunch.
  So, you may easily decide that you DON'T get called a trumper just by asking questions. It's in the nature to review and discuss things.
  
  Being called a Trumper for criticising a democrat is no different than Christians who say you're a devil worshiper if you don't worship the Christian god. Just because I criticize a democrat, doesn't mean I'm a republican. It's not a knife edge. Someone like Pelosi is not anywhere near leftist enough for me, but if I criticize her for that, I'm somehow a Trump supporter?? How does that make sense?
- And it seems like you can't even criticize them or you get called a Trumper
  /cue dramatic music
- I'm a leftist and get called a Trumper all the time for criticizing Dems to be better.
  
  Talking shit about Biden and telling everyone to vote for a third party instead is not "criticizing Dems to be better," it's literally how you would put Trump back in the White House
  
  You're getting downvoted but it's what's happening here. The GOP is not even an option in terms of who to vote for, so I only focus on Democrats and how to fix their issues. But no, suddenly now it's a sin to point out any issues within your own party. It's toe the line, or get called a Trumper.
  I think Pelosi, Biden and the older generation is way too conservative and centrist, I want a more socially progressive democratic party that will push forward a more leftist agenda, led by younger, more left leaning Democrats, why is that a "Trumper" view?? Why am I not allowed to call out the people on the side I'm on?
- “DoN’t BoTh SiDeS! FaLsE eQuIvAlEnCe.
- You say anything negative about dems and they come out in full force calling you a red hat.
  
  Gtfo with that. There's plenty of legitimate shit talking about democrats. Just don't be a "both sides" asshole or a hexbear goon.
- The author of this article is almost certainly a democrat. And if you mention senile politicians without mentioning Trump, you are invariably a Trumper.
  
  I mean when we're all on the same side, must I add the most obvious ones? I'm not talking about the GOP and Trump, they're far gone off the crazy cliff, they're not saveable. I'm worried about the politicians I want to vote for, and point out the ones that make me angry and need a kick in the ass within the party I vote for.
- I consider myself lib center and I'm surprised at how left Lemmy seems to be. I mostly filter out anything political now
  
  People really don't know what "left" is suppose to mean. Socialism is suppose to be a real political position, not a slur. What is consider liberal these days is really right-wing politics.
  
  You're being downvoted, but you're right. Definitely far left here, on average. My theory is that the people who stuck around after the reddit boycott tend to be more "woke", to use a dumbass term.

Dems agree that it was stupid??

My only reaction is something along the lines of finally being able to breathe a breath of slightly fresher air. She has been higher up on my list of Senators to remove than my own state's crooks.

I might agree with the sentiment, but Hearst can eat a bag.

I'm sure all of opinions mean as much to this thread as they do to a dead body.

Nick Lutsko - Living Dead in Washington D.C.

On this day in 2023 Democrats celebrated by shitting all over the corpse of a colleague. I did not like Feinstein at all but the way she was treated during her decline was fucking deplorable.
- She should have resigned long ago, and ejected if she had refused.
  
  That is assuming that she had any agency left. I don't think she did.
- She was treated that way because her decline shouldn't have been happening while she was a U.S. fucking senator. We shouldn't have people who can't even pass the cognitive test Trump passed making our laws.

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