Daily Discussion Thread: Tue 10 Oct 2023

So to read there were no chips tonight was heart breaking. I is offering chips

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Some of my friends have watched the series of Foundation. Some have read the books. The only one who has intersected is me, and I NEED SOMEONE WHO'S DONE BOTH DAMMIT I HAVE SO MUCH METAAAAA

(I'm avoiding forums because holy shit the area of book readers is dominated by so much rectocranial inversion it's a non-starter. Why must hard sci fi fans be such cocks)

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I have read the books but sadly have only watched the first and second episodes, I keep meaning to go back.

I do seem to remember die hard fans being rather upset by some changes. I didn't mind because I don't think you could ever do a completely faithful adaptation and still keep your average Jo tuning in.

As a massive Philip K. Dick fan I was also a huge fan of The Man in The High Castle adaptation and folks hated that one, so...

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- Oh there's a lot to upset fans who want a 'truuuuuue' adaptation - butthurt boys gotta butthurt and may they choke on the mighty sideburns of asimov - but the way they've done it actually ties into a lot of book elements in a beautiful mirror image. Bit beyond what you've watched, which is mostly exploring the events that were timeskipped in the book post-trial. Keep at it, it's gorgeous
  
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- The Dreams of Electric Sheep episodes were pretty fun IMO.
  
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Sorry. I read the books many many years ago, can barely remember it and I haven't reread asmimov, not like I reread Aldiss or Bradbury. I dunno about other readers? 🤷‍♀️ haven't really paid much attention to the series.

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- omg a fellow Bradbury fan hiiiiiii
  
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Most hard sci-fi is traditionally aimed at youthful males. Foundation (books) is fairly traditional, as is most of Asimov. Nuff said. PS. I haven't seen the series, but did read the books back in the 70s.

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- As a kid I loved that Asimov had teenage characters in his books
  
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ackshually the pilots for light speed transit aren't really human so I don't think you can call it hard sci-fi. /s xoxo

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- You talking book or series 'cos I will throw down :P
  
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I’ll admit that when I first saw the Israel/Hamas news, even though tragic I thought it was another of the regular flair ups that occasionally happens in the region and it would settle down in a few days. But it seems bad. Sadly I don’t think there will ever be peace in the region.

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there will be if one side ends up wiping out the other, which its looking more and more like Israel are prepared to do. But not sure that actually qualifies as peace.

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I am digged out. One garden bed has been filled, and the base of where the second one is going has been filled too. There is still a bit of soil I need to bring around in the morning before the next load is delivered, but I'm done for the day. Shower, dinner and collapse on the couch is the plan for the evening.

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Having done that at my old place - wheeling out god knows how much to the back in a tiny cart up an old door placed over the steps, then hauling it into a high edged planter box - I can fully appreciate how every muscle in your body must be aching like mad now. Let us know how it goes tomorrow morning...

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Lookin' pretty damned schmick!

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Wow. Serious hard yakka there.

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azaleas going

Don't eat these ones.

I'm doing chips for dins.

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My old lady (mum) has become a cooker. She sent me silver bullion for my birthday emblazoned with " the currency after the reset", this has been building for years but holy fuck.

Has anyone else had this? What are you doing/who are you talking to?

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The other place has qanoncasualties if that might be any help?

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I'm so sorry. I suggest you treat this like your mother has joined a cult. learn how to speak to cult members, the book "Combatting Cult Mind Control" is very helpful.

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I wouldn't care what the fuck is written on it. It's silver bullion mate. Does she need a middle aged daughter?

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I'm watching the first episode of the David Beckham documentary - the scenes when he's being sent off during the Argentina match is giving me PTSD from when I saw the moment live with my brother. We were such big fans and to see it play out was devastating - we were just yelling at the TV

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hugs, ptsd is awful, 😢. The night terrors, flash backs, panic attacks, amnesia, etc etc are crippling. are you seeing a psych?

I know when I suffer a relapse nearly anything can make me overly emotional

Or are you just saying stupid shit that insults people who have real illness?

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- Not OP but come on, that's a bit harsh of you
  
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- It was actually a very stressful moment - maybe used in a bit of an exaggerated post but there's no need to lash out. For the record, yes I am seeing a psych so I maybe don't judge people too quickly?
  
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- You are way out of line here and should apologise.
  
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🐟 Just keep digging. 🐟 Just keep digging...🐟

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FYI Connoisseur crunchy peanut butter salted caramel ice cream is excellent. Also FYI Ben & Jerry's anything is grainy sugary garbage and I have no idea why it's so popular or expensive.

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Did you try what passes for chocolate in the USA? I tried a Hershey bar early on my first visit. It was so bad, I didn't finish it.

Some of the other chocolate bars were ok, though. I liked the butterfinger, though I don't remember it at all, now.

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- lol oh yeah I learned my lesson about Hersheys Vomit Bars many years back and knew to steer clear. I do like a 3 Musketeers but I didn't really get stuck into the candies this trip. Oh I did have a Milky Way which is more like a Mars bar than our Milky Ways and that was decent.
  
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I saw your double decker parma. You earnt the icecream.

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- Thank you :) That came to me in a vision and I actualised it. It was easy and great! Probably should have bothered to make some vegies or something as a side though.
  
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Sad news about Cal Wilson. 53 is way too young.

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Just between us, I have been killing it at work since I got back from holiday. I haven't overdone it or underdone it, I've just done what I needed to do and kept what I believe to be a good balance. This feels like how this role should be performed and I'm feeling like I'm providing value.

I've provided some great input in areas both within my specialisation and outside of it, seeding ideas and generating high level technical discussions. I've collaborated with internal and external stakeholders. Progressed activities and provided valuable updates to the team on current and upcoming technologies and solutions.

Now I just need to bring that kind of energy to my personal life.. which I've started on by getting my apartment in order. Took the cardboard box pile down to recycling today and just gave my air fryer a deep clean so I can use that again without it making my apartment smell like old grease.

I know what I should do now but it's a matter of getting up and doing it. I should go for a walk or something. Go Go Gadget lifestyle changes to promote better mental health!

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Just perused a bunch of old letters - and I mean like, 20+ years, from when I was in high school. From friends that I no longer speak with. I distinctly remember the giddy feeling of getting mail back then. Found a learner's permit from someone that meant a HUGE amount to me, who gave me their Ls when they got their Ps.

I do have to wonder if they've kept my replies.

Or does it even matter? As fleeting as those moments were, they left a lasting impression on me. They shaped who I was to become. Maybe it's the same for them, maybe it's not.

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I had to downsize big time when I moved to Melbourne. I gave away many books that I still miss. I gave away a brand-new unopened PlayStation (first one) in its box.

Old correspondence like this did not survive.

I did it all again moving from Melbourne back to Perth, but that direction was far less painful. All the sentimental stuff was digital and still exists.

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- OOof... I feel this to some extent. When I kicked myself out of home I didn't pack a whole lot. This stuff thankfully was from my late teens when I was already living on my own so I've been able to carry it around with me from share house to sharehouse. But some of the stuff I had left behind when I moved out? Not quite an unopened PSOne (holy hell that hurts to hear! I'm so sorry for your loss) but a bunch of really cool toys I wish I had kept.
  
  And now, you're right - a lot of memories are kept digitally. I should digitise some of this stuff since if it ever went up in smoke that's it. There's no recovery for that.
  
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I’ve got some high school stuff I’ve contemplated giving to the museum of failed relationships

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- Lol - I know, right! But then I feel like you'd need both sides of the story. Having only the ones I received and not the ones I sent, it's a little hard to piece them together (especially when they're not dated). But yeah... the majority of the ones I've kept were from what I call my "big ex", when in reality we were only together for a short time, and it was a very one-sided relationship, and then I met my wife and we've been together for closing in on 20 years.
  
  It was a time. That's all I guess I can put it down to hahah.
  
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Oh man you got me thinking about some of this stuff myself. Thank you. There's some good memories in there. As to the question, given you cant control other peoples reactions to stuff I guess its not even worth pondering. You can hope they do, but all that matters is how YOU feel about it.

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- True. There's no chance of recapturing that moment at all. Only some weird simulacra (which, if pulled off right would create its own moment). But gods! To go back to some of those exact moments. Even the painful ones that, so many years removed seem somewhat trivial yet the scars are still there.
  
  What's interesting is that it's a box of stuff from before I was married, and yet I've still managed to add things over time from when my wife and I were together. Old student cards and metcards with notes written on them and cheap bracelets... So even if the box itself was a time capsule of a personal bygone era, there's been a time leak? It's kind of cool.
  
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I’m still upset my boss is leaving and I’m not sure why I’m having such a strong reaction :(

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I was upset when my boss left as well as we had worked closely together for a good number of years.

I know I was angry at the time when some meetings took place and basically dismissed her and a few days later I cried when one of my co workers asked what was going on and I couldn’t help it.

We’re you close to your boss or had a good working relationship? It’s not I dial if you formed some sort of bond over time.

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- We have a great working relationship, and we've been working together for hardly half a year now. I think I'm not angry, as I think I know why she's leaving, and good for her if that's the case, but I'm so disappointed that two of my *closest *colleagues are leaving/left :(
  
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I was upset when my old boss finished up. I mean I knew it was coming and it wasn’t like we worked together day in day out. In fact I rotated back and forth between teams. For me it was comfort of having someone there that I trusted.

Edit: Ah, my bad. I just read yesterday’s reply. Being blindsided can take a while to get over.

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- It literally came out of nowhere! Mine's a small team, first a senior left, and she got replaced with another one and now my boss is going. I think I miss the senior in my team as she really used to look after and help me (given i'm new to the industry. she took me under her wings) but her replacement isn't the same as her, which is ok but this sucks..
  
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unexpected giggle of the day: Boss entered a bunch of peninsula sites into the worksheet. Cut and pasted most of them. Didn't realise he'd missed the second N

yes I am a four year old.

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Once had a real estate agent called Pennisi

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- Well, were they?
  
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Please give me your positive stories about your cats being spayed. I'm taking Gibson in on Friday and I'm really nervous...

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Got all three of ours done at once. We were prepared for dopey, possibly pained kitties.

We got back happy spazzmonkeys who apart from some stitches didn't show any evidence whatsoever they'd been de-narded (and they definitely have been given two females, one male and no further kittens in the decade that followed)

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Cat owners, what's your go to wet food? Now there's one mouth to feed I'd like go for something a little fancier than dine.

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Applaws house here

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Scored like 200 free tins of fancy feast. Still getting through it. Cats seem to enjoy it alright.

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For some reason, this came up in my YouTube recommendations.... https://youtu.be/7Uj5b7VATa0?si=tUzrp4fXwzFqcbt0

I'll take it.

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Isn't Sunday a Nun's main work day?

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New cars going well. I dont love all the automation and safety stuff though. The lane departure system is really annoying when your swerving to avoid potholes and the car has the nerve to complain that your trying to protect it. But beyond that fuel economy is better than expected and its a lot more comfortable when 3 of us have to go somewhere. And Carplay, maaaan carplay is soo good!

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Ooo! I'm out of the loop - what did you guys end up getting?

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- Kia Sportage to replace the Mazda 6 Diesel, which I have to say, is the worst car in the world. Edit: The mazda, not the Kia. Kia is great so far.
  
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You know how when you feel physically sick and the meds or the hot drink kicks in and you feel momentarily relieved? That's me right now and getting the odd text from a friend and having that moment of connection and safety. Can feel the mind and heart lightening for a second like nurofen for the soul.

I wish this kind of ill feeling was better supported... get a prescription and time off for promoting healthy social connection. Whatever it is I think my next job as an employee will need more of that, either in terms of more time outside of work to foster that or better connections in the workplace.

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I wish this kind of ill feeling was better supported

I do wonder whether we'll get to that point. I hope we do. And I wonder whether we'll see advancements enough where we can point to something and say "see, this is what's wrong with me right now". Having something like a sprained ankle or infection is easy - they're visible signs of why we're not physically able to do something. But if there was like a... I don't know... some kind of test that showed a serotonin imbalance (for example), you know?

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- Yeah, exactly. Of course, mental health is far more nebulous and complex, and cause and effect interactions are not going to be as predictable as with physical ailments. But there is still scope for determining an evidence based, systematic approach to recognising and supporting people's needs. There ARE things that demonstrably help, that might be more apparent from the outside - and it sucks that the onus is very much on the sufferer to carve out solutions and explain everything to others.
  
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