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IDF extends evacuation order to October 14th

The IDF Spokesman Twitter account for Arabic has published guidance for Gazans to evacuate along two main roads between 10am and 4pm today (October 14th).

Translation courtesy of @hassanmckusick:

#Urgent Important statement for residents of Gaza City In recent days, we have appealed to you to leave Gaza City to the south of Wadi Gaza in order to preserve your safety. I would like to inform you that the IDF will allow movement on the indicated streets without any harm between the hours of 10:00 - 16:00. For your safety, take advantage of the short time to move towards the south - from Beit Hanoun to Khan Yunis. If you care about yourself and your loved ones, go south as instructed. Rest assured that Hamas leaders have taken care of themselves and are taking cover from strikes in the region. Residents of Al-Shati, Al-Rimal and West Al-Zaytoun will also be allowed to move on Daldul and Al-Sanaa Streets towards my street By At Saladin and the sea

Jerboa doesn't show the link and the picture together: https://twitter.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1713065991511388610

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Fuck Israel for doing this. Displacing an entire population of people. I'd bet money that MOSAD knew about this attack (maybe not to this degree), but expected that it'd give them all the political ammunition that they'd need to fuck over Palestinians even worse than they already have it.

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- I don't think they did, at least not the extent of it. It was a massive embarrassment to Netanyahu. 86% of jewish Israelis blame him for the attacks and more than half are asking him to resign.
  
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- This is a major intelligence fuckup. Bibi is done for.
  
  Fuck both Hammas and Israel politics for this. Hammas built tunnles under civilian infrastructure (hospital, apartment buildings, kindergarten) in Gaza Strip and hides there.
  
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- Shin Bet (Mossad but domestic issues) DID actually warn the Likud party and Ben Netanyahu that the increased violence supported by the Israeli state against Palestinians in the West Bank (Al Aqsa Mosque, Jenin etc.) were going to increase tensions and risk a Hamas response.
  
  They were largely ignored, mocked, or slandered as deep state arab supporters. Make no mistake that this is not only does this war serve Likud and Bibi, but also their long term interests in cleansing the west bank of Palestinians.
  
  Also, Likud and Bibi's successive govts took multiple policies to push Hamas into conflict with the Palestinian Authority (the actual elected govt of the West Bank) and in turn keep their political modus operandi against Palestinians from weakening.
  
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  On top of that, Egyptian military intelligence warned Mossad about an imminent invasion and Mossad ignored them. The Israelis are going to be asking their government a lot of very hard questions over the best decade.
  
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- Mosad does not operate in Palestinian Territories
  
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  I'm sure one of the largest and most advanced intelligence services in the world isn't operating in a neighbouring territory which their bosses have significant geopolitical interests
  
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  You forgot the /s are the end.
  
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That's an ominously round shapefile they used to mark the evacuation boundary..

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- They can't. They wouldn't! Would they?
  
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  They wont. But if they did, it would be an interesting political move. It would demonstrate unambiguously that:
  
  they have nukes (everybody sorta knows, but its never been confirmed)
  
  they are willing to use them in anger against their enemies (only the second country to use them against enemies)
  
  they are willing to engage in a first strike (many countries are comitted to not being the first to send the spicy boi)
  
  they are willing to use them against a non-existential threat (many countries intend only to use them only when faced with, or after experiencing annihilation)
  
  they are willing to use them on their own doorstep, to the peril of hostages, enemy civilians, and their own citizens/fisheries/farmland in the region
  
  This would be such a radical nuclear doctrine that it would genuinely give all arab countries, and Iran, pause to consider their own safety.
  
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  SA this point, I kinna think they will
  
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if they're posting it to twitter, hearing in mind power and internet are totally cut in Gaza, this is for YOU to read, not Palestinians.

when civilians are inevitably killed they'll tell the press that it was "clearly communicated through official channels" and everyone online will just take the IDF at its word.

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- They are also dropping leaflets.
  
  Not defending the IDF, just saying
  
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- I think they've been dropping leaflets and some people still have access.
  
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  Sure, but the act of telling the UN and social media was to make the case of the fabled civilian insurgent when these people are killed, including the ones killed by IDF when travelling along the very roads in the graphic.
  
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Translation:

The safe way to move civilians south

Street name 1

Street name 2

Yellow line: Safe route

Dotted lines: Gaza Border

Source: Google translate app

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- Also those paths are roughly 10 miles long for anyone unfamiliar with the region or to lazy to check Google maps.
  
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  And Israel has already bombed a convoy following that exact route. There's no reason for Palestinians to trust this, if they could even get on the internet to begin with.
  
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- The twitter post has a lot more content. That's the translation I was referring to.
  
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  I’m dumb.
  
  #Urgent Important statement for residents of Gaza City In recent days, we have appealed to you to leave Gaza City to the south of Wadi Gaza in order to preserve your safety. I would like to inform you that the IDF will allow movement on the indicated streets without any harm between the hours of 10:00 - 16:00. For your safety, take advantage of the short time to move towards the south - from Beit Hanoun to Khan Yunis. If you care about yourself and your loved ones, go south as instructed. Rest assured that Hamas leaders have taken care of themselves and are taking cover from strikes in the region. Residents of Al-Shati, Al-Rimal and West Al-Zaytoun will also be allowed to move on Daldul and Al-Sanaa Streets towards my street By At Saladin and the sea
  
  Same method, google translate app
  
  Edit: Feel free to copy this OP
  
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Fuck the Israelis state of apartheid for doing this. Displacing an entire population of people.

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- Fuck the terrorist organization Hamas, slaughtering innocent people in their homes. Also fuck the terrorist organization Hamas for not lifting a single finger to care for their population who elected them in democratic elections. Fuck them for not only not defending them - but actively put them in danger, starting a conflict with Israel then hiding in civillian homes and preventing those citizens from fleeing a war zone.
  
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Here's approximately how long it would take to traverse from inside the city to outside the circle + eventually extra traffic: https://i.imgur.com/aZxkGlt.png

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- Except you have a million people trying to do the same, that's extra extra extra taffic
  
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- Imagine hauling your grandma and toddlers across 24km of crowded street with occasional rubbles, and you need to cross them within 6 hours or risk a fiery death. Totally doable! /s
  
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- Because everyone has a car and driving through rubble is no problem. Especially with a million people who do not have electricity, fuel or food.
  
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  When Israel were under attack, the entire country joined together and helped people evacuate from their destroyed homes. Also the military and security forces. Not saying it's easy, but it certainly is doable if Gaza was a functioning society. Sadly, it's not.
  
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  I take no position, if this is good or bad. I have my opinion but I don't want any arguments with either side, so I just posted objective facts.
  
  I was just curious on the distance and figured other people would also want to know.
  
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- terrible time to assume they are using cars
  
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  Right? How can they afford a car if they can't even afford food and are unemployed.
  
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- Thanks for sharing. I wonder what the walking estimate is and driving with traffic.
  
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  The walking estimate is around 5 hours
  
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Idf needs to get the fuck out of Palestine before the rest of the world figures out that we collectively fucked up in 1948 and rectifies the situation.

You know. With the same methods they use today.

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Of course they extend the evacuation order. They know it isn't feasible for a million ppl to evacuate in 24 hours. They're not savages like Hamas, and fear for innocent loss of life. They do give unreasonable orders so people will act quickly, because boy oh boy are they about to attack.

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It would help if the IDF drove some civilians that have mobility issues or arranged shelters for people to stay in.

Also if every hospital is at capacity, where do the patients in the north side go? I hope the IDF doesn't blow them up.

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- IDF cannot go there, Hammas will open fire. Hammas on the otherhand can drive them away, but won't, they keep them as human shield.
  
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- Gaza, is not controlled by the IDF, it is fully free, sovereign, and governed by Hamas. The IDF cannot drive people around, it’s not their territory.
  
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  The IDF cannot drive people around, it’s not their territory.
  
  Too bad Israel keeps killing amnesty workers or I bet they would volunteer: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nine-staffers-working-with-un-palestinian-refugee-agency-killed-air-strikes-gaza-2023-10-11/
  
  Oh lemme guess, it's a feature not a bug?
  
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- The IDF can not simply go there, Hamas wound instantly open fire.
  
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