'Damning' New Poll Shows Price Kamala Harris Paid for Backing Israeli Genocide in Gaza
'Damning' New Poll Shows Price Kamala Harris Paid for Backing Israeli Genocide in Gaza
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'Damning' New Poll Shows Price Kamala Harris Paid for Backing Israeli Genocide in Gaza | Common Dreams
Another article that uses the same poll that says 19 million people who voted for Biden didn't vote despite not having any sources for that number. The Harris and Biden vote difference was under 6 million. 19 million is multiplying that times around 3.
Edit: I also find it interesting that so many of the polls we have had about the reasons people didn't vote for Harris have different reasons. Some say Inflation, this one says Gaza. Just interesting how different polls can be conducted. This one was also backed by the Institute for Middle East Understanding so, while I don't think they necessarily rigged it, I am not surprised that a poll backed by a Middle East organization showed support for Gaza was a deciding reason for a lot of voters. Regardless, Gaza had some impact that can't be disregarded.
Second edit: to be clear, I'm not saying the poll says 19 million, I'm saying the article does with no evidence. I'm keeping the original wording and correcting it in this edit for clarities sake.
The poll doesn't say 19 million anywhere
It also addresses issues raised in your edit (e.g. "Across the six battleground states that flipped from Biden to Trump, 20% of these voters said “ending Israel’s violence in Gaza” was their top issue in deciding not to vote for Harris, the second-most cited reason behind only the economy (33%)." - to your point about how they didn't discuss the economy).
That's what I'm saying about the 19 million figure. But the articles second paragraph is this
My point is that that 19 million figure makes no sense/has no evidence to support it and isn't mentioned anywhere in the poll.
Yes an edit: Also that's a good point about the battleground state stats, thanks for pointing it out. I know Gaza had an impact, its just interesting seeing how much of an impact it actually had, which other polls show as much lower. Again, different polls, different methodologies, and different ways of getting the poll participants with Yougov doing purely online polls.
The biggest reason is that voter turnout wasn't repressed, the 2020 turnout was artificially inflated by emergency vote by mail rules due to the pandemic.
2012 - Obama 65,915,795 Romney 60,933,504
Total - 126,849,299
2016 - Trump 62,984,828 Clinton 65,853,514
Total - 128,838,342
2020 - Biden 81,283,501 Trump 74,223,975
Total - 155,507,476
2024 - Trump 77,303,573 Harris 75,019,257
Total - 152,322,830
I would say those numbers mean every election where voters are not able to vote by mail is an election with repressed voter turnout. Because now we know what turnout can be if vote by mail is an option.
Did you look at your own numbers? Trump did better than he did in 2020, while Harris did substantially worse than Biden.
Millions of people have voted by mail for decades, that doesn't explain why more people voted for Biden in 2020 than anyone in 2024.
No, I know that, but that still doesn't provide evidence for what the article states, that 19 million people who voted for Biden stayed home. That's my problem because there is no evidence for that figure.
The 19M could add up if there were 13M voters who either voted for the first time or voted for Trump in the last election. Say if Harris's total was 56M Biden voters, 8M first time voters, and 5M Trump 2020 voters.
That still seems like a stretch, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. Someone would need to do some work to show that though, not just say it and be expected to be trusted.
That's a massive stretch with 0 evidence to support it so is just speculation. Not literally impossible, but multiple new orgs saying 19 million without that evidence is fucking weird.
To piggyback on this, left-leaning echo chambers tend to underestimate the impact of turning on Israel amongst older voters, who tend to be more religious.
From the other article covering the poll, Biden-Harris respondents were also asked how a change in policy would have affected their enthusiasm. 5% said it would make them less enthusiastic, 35% said more.
I definitely agree with that. We can argue about whether Harris would have benefited from saying she'd stop arms being sent to Israel, but to say it wouldn't have hurt her as well is ignoring how much of the public supports Israel. There's also a lot of people on the left who would have simultaneously said they're glad she supports stopping arms sales to Israel and yet still find some other reason not to vote for her. The decision on which way for the campaign to go on the Palestinian genocide isn't as easy or clear cut as many seem to think.