Daily Discussion Thread: 🍿 Wednesday, 22 January, 2025

I saw this. Thought youse might like it.

Spent a good chunk of the day applying for roles in different departments. There's 3 I am super keen on, wish me luck.

In non America/Baku news I'm drunk and have just completed day two in a row of after-work outings. This one was beers and burger, no complaints. Also my probation review went great, was told unless I majorly fuck up/change behaviours I'll pass no worries. One more after-work outting to go tomorrow, actually looking forward to it.

Was the previous daily deleted by accident?

Edit: Baku's account isn't showing up.

The server returned this error: couldnt_find_person.

Following some research into yesterday's thread, which I still have access to minus Baku's comments which were deleted by their account at around midnight, it appears this is American election related.

I have no issue with free discussion and civil disagreements, I have no intention of over controlling discussion on this forum.

My main concern here is how the history of this groups previous dailies may have been impacted as a result of a user who had been posting the daily and I will need to start considering more appropriate means of posting dailies to avoid this kind of issue going forward.

As some of you may have noticed, I'm not too talkative most days and I mostly just check in at midnight if I am awake to make sure the previous daily ends and the new one begins. I don't have any reports to action, but I will need to have a look at the threads I personally have access to some more. But most importantly I am going to have to consider how to ensure a more consistent daily thread that is less likely to disappear, whether I can return it myself or not, etc.

Additionally, it's about time I start investigating Lemmy's bot mechanics, I was waiting to complete my current personal server migration to a complete hypervisor solution rather than utilising one of my already overworked Raspberry Pi's, I'll have to get on to this matter more quickly.

Edit2: It's starting to look like I will be unable to return the posts that where deleted as a result of Baku's account nuking, I do have personal access to all of them without their comments as it was actioned by me in featuring them, but the posts themselves where of the account that is now no longer available.

This makes it clear that I need to make some changes going forward in how the daily functions.

Hmm that’s certainly something I didn’t see coming.
Thought the threads would still be here but it looks like they were totally wiped out of existence.
- If I look at my own personal history I can see the comments I made to yesterday's thread, just not the thread nor other poster's comments.
I’ve noticed that the Brisbane mob seem to have a daily bot - maybe if we ask them nicely they’ll share the code?
I have screenshots, I went off on him. I take the blame tbh.
I've unsubbed to c/Melbourne, so he's free to come back or whatever he wants to do. If you want the screenshots to make an assessment, DM me and I can send you them.
- I appreciated you pointing out that his initial comment that prompted your reaction was quite thoughtless, but can tell from previous interactions that you two had some tension.
I sent you a dm with the screenshots for your assessment.
- Thank you for that, I have taken a look at them with greater context of what was being discussed in yesterday's thread.
  We hadn't dealt with this kind of issue from regulars that I have seen from my notifications or the modlog until now, I would have preferred Baku had reported your comments so that I could have actioned them when I came online at midnight.
  Part of the issue may have been my lack of participation in the daily discussions themselves, so I haven't been as viewable as I should be, but I have been checking daily for months. It's important that we avoid letting these kinds of interpersonal issues feel like they aren't going to be actioned by the mods.
  Your comments directed towards Baku appear to be targeted in a way that are absolutely against the community rules, the subject matter is allowed as we haven't barred specific topics from the daily, only the manner in which users talk to each other. I have yet to issue just a temporary band so far on this platform, so I am learning as I go.
  Considering that part of this issue is the lack of established rules, penalties and more importantly the lack of assurance that I will action issues in due time, this isn't a permanent ban. You will be welcome back in 72hrs, knowing that I can't guarantee not issuing a permanent ban if an issue like this where to occur by yourself or another user in the future.
  Today was a weird day for everyone, come back in 3 days and let's get back to normal appropriate behaviour. I will be looking at where I went wrong and hopefully have a community post in how we can avoid this in the future by the time you come back.
  Edit3: I have spoken to both Starchy & Baku in DM's, Baku didn't intend for the previous threads to go down and they are currently still publicly viewable here;
  https://sh.itjust.works/c/melbourne@aussie.zone
  Edit4: It's looking like it may take 30 days for federated instance to scrap deleted account content, hopefully that is the case, and we can archive the daily's posted by Baku's account before they are completely gone.
An automated daily posting would be the right way to go, if it’s possible. It means it’s not dependant on any specific user being awake, remembering, or have obligations to remain a user here, in case they ever wish to delete their account. A lot of people find value in the community here and it would be a pity to loose that. I feel terrible about the interactions I saw yesterday. I hope Baku and Spud both Ok and would like to come back when they are ready.
I just noticed that. Is it just the thread or is Baku nuked?
It’s my damn fault. I brought up an awkward topic. :( My comment should have been deleted, or I should have received a warning to not talk about such things. Not him.
Is he going to be allowed back?
- It wasn't you. It was me melbaboutown.
- It is looking like they deleted their account and comments, without seeing their comments I don't have a full picture of whether they said anything that would warrant a banning of future Baku accounts.
  I haven't seen anything so far that was by you and targeted harassment toward other users.
his posts and comments are coming up deleted
- That appears the case, I have access to deleted threads minus just Baku's comments.
It really really should be posted by a specific account or something. Could maybe set one up and give regulars the password on request? Only allow dt threads on it and revoke access for misuse?

good deed done for the day. Someone on reddit wanted a postcard from aus so just got that done. Jesus my writing is appalling.

Are they a collector of postcards or something?
- I think so. said they didnt have one from Aus.
I love this.
Postcards are awesome.
- happy to send you one when I go away next if you want.

Perfect night to cuddle up with fluffy and a book.

Nice view out there as well

Goodnight all ❤️

Ahh, companies. All 'fuck you, peasant, eat my arse' until you cancel your account and post on product review then it's all 'we're sorrryyy how can we fix this??'

Pity PR won't let me actually reply with 'eat my arse'

😂 Sometimes I think I just wait for comments to brighten my day.
- don't do that, I'm a horrible misanthrope

How good is this weather? I'll be school shoe shopping today with the kid where she'll complain that they're all ugly and it's hard to choose between ugly and ugly.

cranking open every door and window and embracing the lack of moist
I needed a break from the heat, same as the fluffy ones amongst us lol
- Bliss for the next couple of days!
One of my housemates left the back door open overnight, which usually annoys me, but damn it's a nice morning
- A happy accident.
Feels weird to suddenly having a day like this.
I was about to go out for a little for some fresh air but I don’t think I will anymore.
- Go. We've only got 2 or 3 days before the heat returns so go outside now.
neighbour chose today to use a jackhammer , I think I'll go out soon
- Good idea.

I’m going to the museum in a bit. I could do with a nice chill day

That's such fucking bullshit, and sadly a story I've heard before.
I feel for you. Hearing what people I know pay for psych appointment is horrendous.
Hopefully you can get a second opinion from a different psychiatrist. I have heard stories before of people having additional conditions to adhd, which get missed because adhd symptoms can overlap with other things. If the medication is causing your life quality to be lower than without it, this sounds like it’s definitely the wrong stuff and needs a review. Taking it should be helpful, not make things worse.

There is a blender full of underpants on my kitchen table

okay. Interest is piqued.
Tell us more. 😊🍿
- Other evidence suggests Boyo went on a packing spree after I left for work. Or maybe house elves broke into the catnip stash.
Perhaps Boyo ran out of clean jocks and was prepared to do a turbo wash before realising that's not such a good idea.
- We do have a house rule : don't blend spoons

Just realised I'm crushing hard on a regular hookup guy at the moment. It'll sting when things inevitably change and we can't meet anymore. But accepting the happy chemicals and swooning a little in the meantime. 🫠🥲

That's very cute!
I miss having a crush, but at the same time, it's oddly peaceful not having one.

It's OK to discuss difficult issues, even if it gets a little ugly sometimes.

Because that means we are talking which is far better than not talking at all. If we don't talk about difficult issues then how can we learn about each other and the issues.

I missed all the drama but agree with what you say.
What happened anyway?
- From what i've pieced, an argument that got out of control because everyone is on absolute defcon 5 due to america going insane.
  Which i totally get. I've seen more than a few people being blithe about this at people who live or have experience closer to the edges of society and honestly that's not a kind or smart thing to do.
- Looks like some disagreements over discussing the US election got heated?
- I'll tell you what happened. Spud took offense to something Baku said. Baku wanted to know what it was that was offensive. Spud launched an attack. Baku retaliated. Shots were fired from both sides about what one should be allowed to post. More shots and then Baku deleted his account.
- I didn’t see anything since I was away doing movie time.
  Only came back to the aftermath of it.
  Not entirely sure how bad it was.
It's a lot to process.
Agreed.

I feel like I owe the DT regs an explanation

I didn't delete my account because of the argument. I was in the wrong, regardless of whether or not I used anything that could be considered a personal attack. I was being an arsehole to Seagoon, and StudChud responded in kind to me

However, I have recently been feeling like a couple of people within the DT have been consistently hostile to me. StudChud in particular has gone off on me numerous times. Sometimes I deserved it, other times I don't think I did. Then 2 other people over the last couple of weeks have really really irritated me. There was one particular interaction I had with somebody that really rubbed me the wrong way, honestly probably irrationally so. I feel like I can usually do okay with shrugging off both outright aggression, and hostility in subtext/random downvotes. But I really just reached the end of my tether and it was beginning to remind me of when I was in resi and was the physical and verbal punching bag for 3 other people. I can't stand that

Regarding purging all of my content, I genuinely am sorry to every single person who has contributed to DTs. I wanted to just delete my comments, but Lemmy only has two options when you want to delete your account: delete your account and every single post, comment, and image you've ever uploaded, or don't delete anything (which I did last time). Lemmy also has a function which really irks me, where if a post is deleted, every single comment becomes inaccessible to non moderators and administrators. I think that's ridiculous and tbh think it provides too much power to people that delete their accounts. I would much rather they became inaccessible without a direct link or going through your comment history, like how it works on reddit

Deleting everything wasn't an attack on the community or a way to try and get attention. Genuinely. I also realize in hindsight sight that I made up a pretty substantial amount of posts on aussie.zone, and with all of those gone, it seems like half the instance is gone

And regarding coming back, I don't think I ever can. Deleting one's account, and particularly purging all the content on it, is probably the most extreme action you can possibly take as a user. If I just delete everything then reappear a week later, it doesn't mean shit and really just seems like a bid for attention. I'm not going to do that. I'll lurk around from another instance, and occasionally if I think I can be uniquely helpful to anybody, I'll drop in and try to help if I can. But my days as a regular are numbered. Kind of a self exile, if you will. Even now I feel like I'm being even shittier by writing this, but I feel like I need to clarify what happened and actively apologize to everybody. I'm deleting my account as soon as this is posted

I also feel the need to say - I probably deserve moderator action, too. I don't think a ban is appropriate since I'm not going to be around so it doesn't really do much, but my comments towards Seagoon in particular were not acceptable, and I deserved to be called out. After I wrote our my long-winded 2c on recent events, I was already about 70% sure I wanted to delete my account. The magpie post was kind of an attempt to reconcile without accepting I was wrong or my opinion was invalid, not implying that anybody else's was. After i got "bruh"d by StudChud, I made my decision I didn't want to stay around, but at the same time, by creating yesterday's DT, I feel like I more or less signed and agreement that I would ensure the DT remain accessible for at least the entire day. So that's why I waited until midnight to delete my account. The last few comments I made were basically a case of "I'm done with the lot of you, anybody who talks to me can go to hell" type lash out. Again, unfounded and not fair

If anybody wants to access the DTs, you have a little while to view them from certain other instances. I believe how it works is posts and comments are purged from the server immediately, but the "notification" if you will, to other servers (who also host copies of all comments/posts) is rate limited and sent one by one. I don't know that for fact though. You can access them through another instance (ie sh.itjust.works, as Brion linked) until the deletions eventually do federate over. I won't be doing anything to speed up the process. I also was previously working on archiving all DTs on to web.archive.org, so have a look there. I didnt do the most recent ones before I left though

And I want to say that I really truly am sorry for all of the chaos, hurt, and drama that I caused. I should have handled things better. @Seagoon_@aussie.zone I don't know if you received my DM or not, and I don't know if DMs disappear on account deletions, but I am really sorry to you especially. I was being an arsehole and extremely inconsiderate. I do truly hope your family and friends in the state are doing okay, and make it through the term safe and aren't denied healthcare or help if they need it

Tonights' wave:

That almost got my phone heh

update: Oh look, suddenly they have some new reviews lavishing adoration on their customer service after I explicitly mentioned how crap it was.

geralt hmm

(I wasn't dwelling, they replied to me with a simpering wank and I wasn't having it so I blasted them again)

I'm going to wait 2 weeks before approaching my manager again about the outcome of the raise discussions.

Have kept applying and have a couple more interviews next week.

Will have to be working outside office hours anyway, and the raise would make it worthwhile, but we'll see.

Fingers crossed.

Will it be worth it if you got the raise?
From the impression I got it felt like they were overloading you with clients and work.
There’s got to be a point where you have to tell them that you’ve been given too much work or too many clients to deal with?
- Honestly, I don't know. The raise would be life changing. I could actually buy a house a lot sooner.
  I am overloaded. And I will need to work outside office hours. But everything has a cost. Depends what we want to sacrifice to achieve our goals.
  In the least, it will give me an incredible ability to handle large amounts of work which I can take with me to another place.
  Life has so many tough decisions.
Lets hope you get a raise to make it worth it or a job that's just better overall
- Fingers crossed. What i asked for would make it worth it.

Do you ever come across an object and think "I wonder what that's from"? So you keep it thus occupying both physical space and brain space because you know if you do toss it you'll work out what it's for a week later once the big bins have been emptied. Yeah I hate that.

All. the. time .
Wires mostly. I have stuff going back to the old vga cables.
Sometimes I can’t work out if it’s a micro usb or one of those weird proprietary cables with fits into almost nothing.
Absolutely. I'm looking at one right now lol

Good news is I'm back from the shops with everything we need until next week. Bad news is it took 2 hours. Good news is the dog didn't shit on my carpet while we were gone.

Can't sleep, don't care. It's cool and the wind sounds cheerful.

I think know what I'm going to use those virtual desktops, or remote spaces for. I've got a couple of projects at work on the go already now, so instead of having a bunch of tabs open across two screens I can separate them out to their own desktops and have everything I need for them there.

That way I won't get lost amongst all the tabs and I can keep focused on one specific task at a time. Let's see if it works

little wins

Diet is slowly working. habits are changing. I have to take in some pants that are just too big now.

Getting rid of some "old lady" clothes too and soon will be buying some better more tailored and younger stuff. yay 😊

Love this for you.
I’ve been so bored with fashion lately, I am considering sewing a few of my own things this year.

Today was an odd day. I got anxious yesterday which continued to this morning, but I just couldn’t put a finger on it.

At least it wore off as the day went on. (Probably the whole IKEA debacle helped. Funny that.)

Group hug for DDT. 🖤

🫂

I'm feeling a bit better today so I've decided to go in. If that turns out to be a mistake I can always go home again

It's good you have that flexibility man.
- I feel like it needs to come with the expectation people work from the office now. If you want me to come in, you should let me leave as well so I don't make the rest of the office sick

how is it 7.30, I thought it was nearly 9

so tired, woke up at 1.30 with stabbing migraine

No cheesemares to report, but evidently, I need to stop playing Slime Legion on my phone because I was definitely sliding little monsters in my dreams.

Now to just the nightmare of my work day.

Shit sleep gang yaaaaay

Wow. I joke and act chill but lately both my anxiety and sleep have been absolutely unmanageable. -_-

Plus I have to get this grumpy tooth checked out again.

I think it might be time to take a quarter of an otc sleeping pill between midnight and 2 to try and get at least a few hours of sleep at an appropriate time. (Taking any more than that is a roulette of it either completely not working or making me so groggy I sleep right through the next day.)

so many hugs, this weather hasn't helped, it's made the whole city grumpy too

Could've done a bit longer today but solid day out in fantastic weather. Definitely feeling the happy chemicals along with the mild soreness. Now time to salvage this shitty leftover gluggy jasmine rice and make fried rice with it. NEVER again am I falling for that nonsense with 1:1.5 ratios on the packet...

I is a 1:1.5 person :(
- Maybe that works when on the stovetop but it was a mess in the rice cooker :(
  I do 1:1.5 for basmati rice (sometimes 1:2 depending on variety)
I find with jasmine rice you need about 1cm or 1.5cm of water level over the rice to cook it nicely either on stovetop or rice cooker I think from memory.
Has been a very long since I’ve done jasmine rice but it used to be my go to rice variety.
- I've made jasmine rice off and on and grew up with various rice types, I honestly know better but I trusted the packet over my instincts... Not next time!!

So PSA. If you want to use an IKEA gift card purchased online immediately, you can’t.

What a joke. 48h.

Edit: And ones bought in-store are 24h (as told to me by a staff member).

Recently I was told by JB hifi as well that I couldn’t use their gift cards to buy other types of online credit for gaming services.
Was told it was an anti scamming measure.
Real shame as well as I often end up with JB gift cards.
- My son got a bunch of EB gift cards for a b-day a while back...couldn't use them for PS or Steam cards.
  I get it...but at the same time I don't.
Anti scammer measure I'll bet. So dimwits won't buy gift cards to pay for their parking infringements issued by the Australian Federal Police.
- Haha, it’d be funny since these are for IKEA.

yay, the small indie supermarket had eggs

I've been lucky in that the fruit and veg shop I go to near work had a plentiful supply. I like going there anyway because of the freshness and prices, but also because they had the balls and sheer audacity to set up right next door to the Woolies. It's led to staff from the Woolies going in there, checking prices and going back and marking down lol, it's really obvious when they do it too.

Boring work thing:

Found a great Web app to organise all my work. Will make life so much easier!

What app is this?
- Asana! The free version is more than enough.

Beep Beep 🚚
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May I please have some cheese? And some popcorn? And some popcorn with the weird but nice fake cheese powder? Thank youuuuu Bacon!
- 🧀🍿🪤🍿
Bac and eggs with a delicious cup of coffee please Chef.
- 🥓🍳🍳
  ☕️
As I am banned from eating it atm, could I have all the things with gluten, please chef
- 🥐🥯🍞🥖🥨🥞🧇🍔🍕🌭🥪🌮🌯🥙🫔🥟🍝🍘🥧🍪🍺
Chef, do you offer an intravenous coffee service? If so, please sign me up.
- 💉☕️

dives in

Edit: Something has been destroying my seedlings past the size the snails usually go for them.

All the marigolds and some of the sunflowers in the dust bowl got stripped to sticks or straight up eaten. I traitorously wondered if the bird bros did it.

Then very early yesterday morning something got one of the pumpkin seedlings. I wondered, possum or cat? I put a protective milk crate over the spare I replanted in its place.

But then I found the moment on the camera and while I can’t see what the animal was I saw the seedling bend and dip as if something pulled it down. It could have bent under the weight of a very big snail crawling up the stem but it doesn’t look like snail damage. It was stripped too thoroughly and quickly, yanked down too fast.

Honestly I’m thinking rats.

I’ve been clearing out the shed and saw a rat in the backyard yesterday. Gawd I hope they don’t come in the house, particularly as we are sans cat now
Sounds like dem mousies all right.
little buggers
cover seedlings with a cut down inverted plastic bottle
- Yeah good idea. The 2l bottles might be a bit small but if I gently fold the leaves upwards and in it might protect them until the next growth spurt
  Edit: ::: spoiler The largest boi looked like a baby being x-rayed.
  :::
   
  He has been allowed to shelter under the milk crate. The rest have been ensconced under drink bottle domes.
  I see a cherry tomato blushing so I need to see about buying some bird net. That special kind that doesn’t tangle wildlife, it’s been legislated or something
I've got a wire basket over the lettuce seedlings because the birds'll dig them up.

Anyone got a recommendation for a knife sharpening method that's not a wet stone? Seems I'm terrible at the sharpening steel method. Will be mainly for global knives.

Oil stone. Sorry, not helpful. The steel doesn't exactly sharpen a knife, more tidy it up. If you aren't comfy using a stone, take them to a pro. Many kitchen supply stores have links to a service. It's not expensive, just make sure you transport the knives in a legal way.
- Out of curiosity, how do you legally transport a knife for sharpening?
  There’s a sharpening service I can get to but I’m leery of taking a knife on the train to get it there (might have to put it in a box and beg a lift)
I have used the Lansky system for a number of years. They give you the same angle every time. I can’t be fucked with that anymore and just pay someone to do it.
https://www.harrisscarfe.com.au/kitchen-dining/knives/knife-sharpeners/klevasharp-kleva-sharp-knife-sharpener/480024
Puts a wicked edge on shit
This is a wetstone (sorry) but I currently use:
https://www.multi-sharp.com/product/wetstone-sharpener/
Basically connect a drill, fill the reservoir with water, attach a vice to the trigger of the drill to get the stone / water reticulation going. Works a treat on heaps of blades / chisels etc. Never looked back after that thing (just gotta be gentle w/ it).