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Sen. Lindsey Graham: A pause in U.S. help for Ukraine could be 'worse than Afghanistan'

www.nbcnews.com Sen. Lindsey Graham: A pause in U.S. help for Ukraine could be 'worse than Afghanistan'

“Until we have a ceasefire, I would give Ukraine what they need in terms of intelligence and weapons to defend themselves,” Graham said.

Summary

Sen. Lindsey Graham warned that halting U.S. military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine could be “worse than Afghanistan.”

He urged continued support until a ceasefire is reached and announced plans for sanctions on Russia’s banking and energy sectors.

The Trump administration paused aid after a heated Oval Office meeting where Trump and JD Vance clashed with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy. Russia escalated attacks following the fallout.

U.S. and Ukrainian officials will meet in Saudi Arabia to discuss a minerals deal and ceasefire, while Trump seeks further concessions from Ukraine.

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Well asshole look in the mirror and realize this is on you, you fucking asshole

I hate Lindsey Graham. I hate him more than the idiots who just blatantly go along with anything Trump says.
He'll push back just so and contradict Trump a little bit, just enough to make it clear that he is not completely devoid of sense or sanity, but when push comes to shove he'll fall in line. It's like he's trying to make sure history books don't lump him in with the full blown fascists. The fact that he does seem to comprehend how disastrous everything Trump does is makes the fact he eventually goes along with it more egregious than if he were just another empty suit going along with the cult.

Trump thinks he fixed afghanistan.
- And every US president since Bush thought, that they were fixing Afghanistan. And it let nowhere, except killing a lot of people and wasting a lot of tax payer money, aka. enriching the MIC buddies of the Republican and Democrat party.
  Pulling out of Afghanistan was reasonable. The US should have learned since Vietnam, that they are not fixing anything with invading other countries and forcing a regime change. However they also don't want to fix anything. They want to destabilize and destroy, to prevent regions from emerging as economic and strategic competitors and to enrich their MIC buddies.
  Also Vietnam was not a war fought primarily against North Vietnam, it was fought against the civilian resistance against the French/US installed colonial regime in South Vietnam.
  
  No they claimed they had a plan. The orange turd thinks he really fixed it. The US should have learned something from Vietnam but none of that stuff you are talking about.

Now you push back?! Fuck you Lindsey. You are a traitorous peace of shit and no one will remember you
- Wasn't he praising little d just last week on this very thing?
  Speaking to reporters in the White House driveway right afterward, South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham predicted that the shouting match could end U.S. support for Zelenskyy, calling the meeting a "complete, utter disaster."
  “Somebody asked me, am I embarrassed about Trump. I have never been more proud of the president. I was very proud of JD Vance standing up for our country. We want to be helpful. What I saw in the Oval Office was disrespectful, and I don't know if we can ever do business with Zelenskyy again," Graham, the Senate Budget Committee Chairman, said. "The way he handled the meeting, the way he confronted the president, was just over the top."
  Yeah, it wasn't a disaster or over the top because of anything little d or "JD" "Vance" did during their planned ambush of a guy trying to fight off a dictator invading his country. Not according to Lindsey. Last week, anyway.

Hey buddy, wanna find that fucking backbone during confirmation hearings?
Lindsey Graham has always and will always stand for the military industrial complex and is consistently hawkish. He's shaking in his little meemaw's booties because a cessation of aid means a drop in contractor spending.
- "I can't believe most Americans after what they saw today would want to be partners with Zelensky," Graham said. "Ukraine is an important ally."
  -Lindsey Graham the day of Trump/Zelensky meeting where Trump threw a bitch fit.
  He's a flip flopping piece of shit. He supports Ukraine but wants the man fighting for them to step down. Zelensky stepping down is basically throwing in the towel. They just want a fucking compliant leader who will do what they say.
  
  but wants the man fighting for them to step down
  Leader worship is not wise. Also Zelensky pressed out Zaluzhny.
  And no, I think they really want a ceasefire, not a surrender. On terms good enough for the US, but maybe Ukraine would hope for better terms. Ukraine right now appears less dependent on foreign military assistance than in 2022, so it can "negotiate" this way a bit.
  Of course they want a compliant puppet, that's not in question. Just - the Ukrainian war seems stabilized. Russia has seen the limits of its abilities, and there seems to be an opportunity for ceasefire and negotiations. Trying to return all the occupied territory for Ukraine is the perfect which is the enemy of the good.

Fucking windsock
- Lindsey, just a few days ago:
  "He either needs to resign and send somebody over that we can do business with, or he needs to change," Graham said.

Why the fuck does one person have the authority to make these calls anyway.

This is the same Lindsey Graham that called Trump's manufactured temper tantrum an outrage that Zelensky was the sole person responsible for.

And I'm supposed to take him seriously because?...
- I doubt even Republicans take Lady G seriously.
- This is just what he's saying today, already weeks late mind you. He'll be singing different soon.

Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with an elf.
- you won't. he'll switch sides the next time he's in bluetooth range to krasnov
- there are a few old school, russia-hating republicans still left in congress. they just also hate a few other things closer-to-home a bit more to actually do something about the track the administration is sending us down.
- How about some ladybugs?
- In exactly 6 hours he’s going to have a 25 item list of why this is now a good thing. play both sides so he can always get fucked just how he likes.

Worthless traitor cunt.

Huh... I didn't expect Graham to regurgitate a position opposing Trump and Russia.
Somebody must've outbid the oligarchs....

Do you really think, you fat traitorous fuck?

lindsey gram can eat so much fucking shit. gotta be one of the most egregious examples of a high pressure firehose of bullshit spewing in any country's history. even trump's 180s are kindergarten tier by comparison

Key bit: “ he urged support until a ceasefire is reached….”
Anyone remember what happened in Georgia when a ceasefire was reached?
- Why go so far? Ukraine had a ceasefire with Russia between 2019 and 2022. There were even working mechanisms to deal with conflicts. Russia showed it can't be trusted.
  
  The Ukrainian government made no effort to implement Minsk II, had it been implemented then this war would likely not have happened.
  Minsk explicity stated that elections come first and then withdrawal. Ukraine wanted Russia to withdraw first before allowing elections in the DPR and LPR which was against the agreement.
  Ukraine also had the obligation to uphold linguistic rights to ethnic minorities but violated the Minsk Agreements with the 2019 language law which didn’t outright ban the Russian language but did discriminate against those who did not speak Ukrainian or an EU language.
  Zelenskyy initially did campaign on a pro-peace platform but he was quickly pressured by far right militias to do otherwise.