4个月前

The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting more ethical and EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)

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4个月前

The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)

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4个月前

The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting more ethical and EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)

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4个月前

The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)

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SoundCloud always missing wtf???
- WTF!!!!!!'
  
  Lol 😂
I think the hardest part are mobile OS 😔
Beside : eOS, sailfish and postmarket we have a long way...
- Yes, but it turns out you can do a lot of 'switching' even if you can give up on android or iOS straight away. I follesdd this guide for degoogling my Samsung, not done yet but feels like I made some good changes: https://androides.nl/degoogle-guide/
  Though large part is already covered by switching services / apps
  
  @huppakee @Snoopy
  https://www.privacyguides.org/en/android
  https://privsec.dev/posts/android/choosing-your-android-based-operating-system
  https://eylenburg.github.io/android/_comparison.htm
Isn't Waterfox quite slow on the updates?
I've been using LibreWolf, but I've been meaning to try out Zen
- Zen has quite a steep learning curve, especially wjith workspaces and such. It’s a cool concept, but I switched back to Librewolf out of convenience and a leaner ux.
- Sadly there's no librewolf on mobile.
  
  there's IronFox
@FallenWalnut
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OpenSuse
👉Here is explained: https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/choosing-your-desktop-linux-distribution
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@FallenWalnut
You do a great job! 👏 Thank you!
the legend is incomplete. what's red? what's the globe icon? how come some products marked not majority EU owned have the EU flag?
- I will try to answer these, and hope someone corrects any potential innaccuracy:
  what's red?
  There is a comment there saying "see deep-dive for details" so the red-highlight caveat is likely explained there.
  what's the globe icon?
  My assumption is that icon just indicates Free/Open-Source projects which have no "owning company" (not "based" anywhere), just globally scattered contributors.
  how come some products marked not majority EU owned have the EU flag?
  My guess (merely a guess) is that those are run by EU-based companies, but which don't have a solid policy guaranteeing "majority of shareholders are in the EU" (...?)
- how come some products marked not majority EU owned have the EU flag?
  The EU flag is used here for the whole Europe (see the top-right corner), but "not majority EU owned" is specifically looking at the EU, which is very confusing. So Vivaldi being Norwegian and Canonical being British stick out.
This guide is weird. It suggests to replace US products by other US products
- sometime it’s better, for example signal is more popular as an alternative and value more privacy. But if you want to go a step further then you can go use less popular tools.
  I didn’t switch yet because I don’t own replace messenger and whatsapp by 3-4 new product..
I think federated vs cetralised should be a classification for social media platforms
Some really weird suggestions.
Free Software does not have a country of origin.
NixOS, uBlue, AerynOS poorly all rely on Github (Microsoft), but are far better distros than Ubuntu or Mint
Librewolf is better than Waterfox and way more common
Ecosia uses Bing, Kagi uses Yandex and is shady. Metager, SearX, Swisscows and more are actually good
Android, iOS -> GrapheneOS. No iodeOS, they are insecure and not comparable. Same for Fairphone and /e/OS. GrapheneOS is free software but also mainly in the US
- Can you ellaborate the Linux Distros? I'm considering switching from Windows to Linux and currently informing myself about the different distros. Why are they better than Mint and Ubuntu or what is wrong with them?
  
  Hi there, good luck! Maybe I can help.
  I hyperfocused a bit on this question and made a structured post about it.
  https://slrpnk.net/post/21305064
  I hope you like it!
Profit Share missing for Ecosia.
I made my own list of non-American browsers recently when trying to switch from Brave. It gets a bit murky with open-source projects that have global contributors (and sometimes anonymous creators) but here it is:
Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium, Vivaldi
Floorp, Waterfox, Librewolf, Zen
Great guide, thanks! Will start converting (where not already through with it).
Maybe someone can help with this topic: Is there any EU-based live map service (including traffic jams and road work and the likes)? I already use OSM but that doesn't (can't by design as far as I know) include live information.
- Magic earth comes closest I guess. It has live traffic although in my opinion not on par with Google maps. Still, I am using it and am quite satisfied
  
  @Bz1sen
  @ladicius
  This or Nunav Navigation
- Try Here We Go (https://wego.here.com/), it is owned by a bunch of car companies.
Is there a European Netflix or Youtube?
- I think its called BitTorrent.
The incomplete guide...
Cryptpad, ONLYOFFICE, Fennec, Mullvad Browser, Librewolf, Thunderbird, FairEmail, SimpleX, Lemmy, Peertube
Bluesky? Wtf
- Very true. Good products
@FallenWalnut
Bookmarked and boosted!
I cannot recommend Internxt their software and servers are buggy.
The desktop app (on Linux at least) would give lots of errors and refuse to upload files. In addition some uploaded files were corrupted when trying to download them.
I like their idea and philosophy but at the moment their excecution is quite poor making the product unrealiable.
I prefer Only Office (Desktop Version) to Libre Office, because
it does not look like over 20 year old Office 2003
it uses docx and xlsx as native format which makes it easier for noobs
I heared Only Office has some Russian connections. Otherwise it still is Open Source.
- Onlyoffice uses Electron, which uses an outdated and seldomly updated version of Chromium 😵
  It would be good if they could support QtWebengine or WebkitGTK, or if the Linux Desktops could start to support a single webview-like runtime
  
  Oh, I see. And Electron is not really making things faster.
- @Wrdlbrmpfd @FallenWalnut Why don’t you try Free Office? It has a free tier and it’s German.
  
  Seems ok, but it seems to be a dowgraded version from a commercial product. If there is a good Open Soruce product, I prefer that.
I do not want to start a discussion about Linux since I'm no expert and a million of Linux experts will know better.
But don't all the suggested distros here (as well any user friendly ones in general) rely on the kernel written by Torvald's team. With that team being based in the US and at least Linus himself having acted as a three letter agency asset before, can they really be called privacy friendly or even secure? (I'm talking about the CIA or NSA having had a backdoor into Linux in the past and Linus also having banned Russian contributions last year while not banning American contributions, much less moving the operation outside of the US)
- What is this backdoor you speak of?
  
  Bvp47

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