What's new in Fedora Workstation 39

I have the complete opposite experience. I've never had a good fedora kde install. It always had issues out of nowhere. I've hopped so much until I settled on endeavourOS for over a year now. Beautiful distro

I kind of have the opposite experience.

I use Plasma for a bit but instability, odd bugs, or visual inconsistency just becomes too much for me.

Gnome was a pain for a couple of weeks when I kept trying to use it like a Windows PC, but once the Gnome workflow "clicked" it just made so much more sense than the Win95 UX paradigm.

And it's particularly annoying when kwin crashes, because it takes everything else down with it (that's getting fixed in Plasma 6 though!) For me that's an absolute show-stopper. I don't want to lose hours of work across multiple programs because something caused kwin to crash.

5.27 is better to a ridiculous degree compared to how Plasma 4 and early Plasma 5 was, though. KDE is doing a lot of work to put the meme of their software being a buggy mess to bed.

If you don't mind me asking, was it because of the vanilla look, the customization being based on extensions (which may or may be updated for a while when a new version releases--if at all), or was it the Gnome philosophy of "One Window per workspace"?

Just curious really, I'm more of an XFCE and KDE user myself, and i can see the appeal of Gnome (and I'm NGL, it looks nice IMHO), but yeah...not a big fan of extensions breaking every version update and the "throw unused Windows in a new workspace" thing

I can, but it's not the same.

I'm talking about asusctl, supergfxclt, and rog-control-center which is a GUI front end for the previous two items. You can find lots of info and guides on it here.

To be fair, fedora 38 is already on the latest version of KDE Plasma unlike with gnome. I'm sure once we get Plasma 6 we'll see the fedora spin support it not long after.

Yes but that is irrelevant to their question

I'm with you on this. I've been using openSUSE since it was SuSE Linux, and I still here bs on occasion about how they sold out open-source to MS. I'm not a huge fan of what Novell did back in the day, although it did end up costing MS more money. That said the opensuse community is not whichever corporation owns SLE currently, and they still contribute back to the community.

I’ve been using Fedora for months now and it was my first time using Linux. Is probably the most modern and best working distro right now.

I'm not gonna suggest to you to switch distros or whatever. But most of the modern feeling you are seeing is just the DE, which you can use whichever one with whatever distro. As far as Fedora's own stack the centerpiece which is the package manager is actually really slow comparing with anything else.

You think Arch or Mint wouldn’t become just like Red Hat if they had the user’s numbers?

Yeah. They wouldn't. I think they actually already do have higher number of users than fedora actually. If they don't, then Debian surely does.

Red Hat is a for profit company, and their first goal will always be that even if that means squeezing you and making the experience worse for you.

Community distros are explicitly about the community and not about profit, and it works quite well.

They think everything that isn't Foss is malware

That's quite literally what their god, Richard Stallman, constantly claims. So instead of recognizing the practical need, or at the very least the nuances, relating to usage of software in a commercial setting, they'll go into a slippery slope fever dream whenever they see non-FOSS code.

In fact, the FSF won't even recommend distros such as Debian - their official page, the one newcomers might read when first getting to know Linux, recommends obscure, broken, bizarre software such as Dynebolic and Dragora... Because Debian allows users to choose to install non-FOSS components, and that's just the worst possible thing in the entire universe.

Afaik, Fedora is a free software. I don't deny that, and I'm a free software fan. I don't have any problems with fedora besides that it is too heavy for me.

It looks you also care about your freedom because you use gnu/linux and lemmy. However, it seems you have a different meaning of malware.

Softwere is a recipe. Any unwanted step is malicious. You can only determine a step as unwanted by seeing its source code.

Besides this, a softwere can have other functions that are not coming from the code but the license. Similarly they can be malfunctions. For example preventing you from modification.

So yes, propriatory software is malware. I use some malwares also, because they have no alternatives yet. But let me call them malwares.

Copyright is the example of capitalism polluting water to be able to sell clean water to people.

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