10 mo. ago • 90%

Our children are victims of road violence. We need to talk about the deadly norms of car use

theconversation.com Our children are victims of road violence. We need to talk about the deadly norms of car use

We accept the daily toll of road deaths and injuries as the price we pay to be able to drive everywhere, but it doesn’t have to be this way.

Bicycles @lemmy.ca Our children are victims of road violence. We need to talk about the deadly norms of car use.

Fuck Cars @lemmy.ml Our children are victims of road violence. We need to talk about the deadly norms of car use

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Taps big brain: get rid of the kids and no more child road deaths.

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- But often the people buying huge trucks are also against abortion
  
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  Well if you abort the fetuses then there's no children to run over with your F150.
  
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On a completely unrelated note, I was scrolling down the article and saw a big X and clicked it thinking it was a popup or ad and hit it out of habit, but it was actually the embedded tweet.

Another reason why the X rebrand is dumb.

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When I was a courier, I would plan my route to avoid school zones. In those occasions when I did have to travel past a school between the hours of 2:30 and 4:00pm, I would be a model driver, a safe and legal speed and always with an eye out for unpredictable pedestrians and other road users.

The biggest hazard at that time of day were the parents who were either picking up their little turds, or parents on the way to a different school speeding through school zones because they had one too many day drinks and lost track of time.

I noticed that the students who walked to and from school by themselves or with an older sibling were always careful, road smart and safe.

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- There's a school zone on my way home with a slow vehicles lane. I always stay in the "fast" lane and do the speed limit. It pisses people off, regularly attract a colourful reaction. People who speed through school zones are the scummiest of the scum out there
  
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Ban all cars.

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- You'd pretty much have to have bumper to bumper buses though to replace them in order to cover all the journey combinations to happen in a timely manor.
  
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"We could reduce the speed limits for cars to be closer to the average speeds of walking (6 kilometres per hour"

Geezus christ. I'm guessing the author has no idea what it's like to be a parent.

Here's a hint: kids need to go places. Public transport cannot get you to those places. Also, parents need to work (both of them) or else the kids don't eat. As a parent I'm flat out busy from sunrise to midnight, and they want me to take the 1 hour I spend commuting each day and expand it to five hours. That doesn't work:

get the three year old ready for school (this can be ten minutes or an hour, so you better start getting ready an hour before you need to leave)

walk to the bus stop (five minutes for me, but with a two year old... twenty minutes, not necessarily walking but you need to allow for that much time which means you'll spend a lot of it waiting at the bus stop)

bus to daycare, 20 minutes as it winds through the suburbs

drop the kid off at daycare, then wait for the next bus (30 minutes later)

bus out of the suburbs onto the main bus line (another 20 minutes meandering through suburbs)

finally, on the main bus line to the CBD (20 minutes)

then 15 minutes waiting for a bus out of the CBD towards where I work

then 15 minutes on that bus

Unfortunately... you can't get a 3 year old to eat breakfast at 5am and the childcare centre won't let you drop them off at 6am either. So that schedule means starting at work at around 10:30am. Ouch.

And in order to get home in time for the kid two have dinner without throwing a tantrum... I'd probably need to leave work at 2pm.

Sorry but it's just not possible to work 3 hours a day and pay a mortgage/put food on the table/etc.
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- Would you support public transport improvements?
  
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  Of course I'd support better public transport.
  
  But I'm not really sure what form that would take? The bus from my house to the childcare centre obviously drops us off there when the bus is scheduled to do so, which means I will always face the longest possible wait for the next bus to come by. It only takes two minutes to drop the kid off... but the bus driver isn't going to wait.
  
  And it's pretty normal for public transport to not go to where you're going unless you're going to or from the CBD. That means changing busses.
  
  I could live in the CBD... then transit infrastructure would be great - but the realestate there is way out of my reach, price wise.
  
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  The user here is a known car-brained troll. They have a long history of opposing better urban planning.
  
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- Your list of barriers to not using a car are all a result of poor urban planning which is rife in the majority of our cities. If we had stopped the sprawl 30 years ago then car dependence could have been mitigated.
  
  Guess I'm one of the lucky ones in that I can walk kids to school and daycare (less than 1km) then cycle to work easily (less than 10km).
  
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  Guess I’m one of the lucky ones in that I can walk kids to school and daycare (less than 1km) then cycle to work easily (less than 10km).
  
  Yeah our local daycare centre isn't well run and unfortunately, so we had to go to the next suburb over. My partner and I don't work close to each other so... we live about half way between our two jobs. Can't really get any closer unless one of us switches careers. When I do have time to ride the bicycle to work (try to do it once a week) it's 70 minutes. Normally I take the motorbike.
  
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- Jesus Christ are you being deliberately obstinate here, or are you just that thick?
  
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  Wait, what? They are absolutely right.
  
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This is a deeply, deeply stupid article.

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- This is a deeply, deeply stupid comment.
  
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- why?
  
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