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Immediately after this she also says that short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).

She just says that racism allows such a system to even exist.

What is her reasoning that racism allows the system to exist? It seems like a desire for geopolitical power could easily create the same situation without racism.
- My understanding (with by words - just bcs I find it obvious):
  \ Few people create & maintain the system actively, the rest of them/us just feed it money & don't do anything when it's killing children or exploiting the poorest countries on Earth.
  Racism, lack of compassion, the general idea that we (developed countries measured by GDP?) are automatically somehow something more just bcs we were born here & entitled to nice lives supported by a greater number of lives elsewhere, etc.
  (To clarify, racism isn't just the thing towards black people in USA, every nation has it's own forms, and they are rarely based on color, usually it's nationality. So it's easier to say X country should have lower wages bcs it's providing us cheap goods.)
- Because not seeing the Palestinians as humans makes it easier to ignore the genocide
  If people were being genocided, then that would be an issue. However, we are civilized enough in the West to realize that it is merely Muslim Arabs who are being killed. This makes the justification significantly easier to believe
- because all things equal it’s easier to get your country to support funding genocide of the other

she's not wrong, if it were white people that were being killed there would be more reaction

heck, trump made up a white genocide in south Africa just to make them look bad

She's not wrong, but also not 100% right. Racism plays a part, but there's also a good helping of "I've got mine" along with a whole lot of money tired into the military-industrial complex
- Another comment mentioned that she did, in fact, elaborate this right after
- There's a reason that class consciousness is social consciousness.
Remember how the world jumped to save insert long list of European countries during WW2 or the siege of Sarajevo?
The fact that both sides are the same race in this just makes it funnier
- You mean when America dragged its feet entering WW2? I suppose Canada jumped in to help but we're a commonwealth country.

I think it's probably more the geopolitics, Isreal is in deep with the Military Industrial Complex, the US Intelligence Agencies, and the future plans the US has for the Middle East (namely the agreement between the US, Israel, the Saudis and India to create a trade passage through the area).

But yeah, if you look at Peter Thiel's work with Israel's intelligence R&D company Carbyne you'll find US agencies near by...

...and lots of these shadey dealing go back generations and have been done by Republican and Democrat Presidents. I think it was Obama who agreed to give Israel 38 billion to buy US weapons - an agreement which basically made the US the sole external supplier for their munitions.

I suppose beyond that it's historical, religious, and racial... But there's more to it than that.

She explains exactly this, the meme just cut it all out.
youtube.com/watch?v=Hk1WEhO07Bw&t=759
Immediately after "racism" she also says that it's for short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).
Continuous racism is what allows such a system to even/still exist.
- I mean, racism might make it easier for the US to push forward with less resistance, but the relationship with Israel has always seemed more steeped in religious/geopolitics than anything else. For the US they like having a strong tie to a nation centered in the middle east, and there are some weird Christians who believe that they can enable the second coming.
Also it's brown people that are dying
You don't need Israel for a trade passage. The US is trying to pivot away from the region to focus on East Asia, where China is. The US no longer needs the Middle East for strategic reasons as the US has developed its own Oil and Gas resources.
Israel is a liability for the US geopolitically. Of course there is a strong Israeli lobby and there is the intelligence ties, surveillance tech and the like. However i think this is more based on blackmail than a genuine need for the US to get this tech from Israel. The father of Ghislaine Maxwell, who ran the child rape circle with Epstein, had ties to Mossad and other intelligence agencies. It is quite plausible that Mossad has a lot of material on the people involved.
- I don’t know if the blackmail argument even works. Because we live in a “post-truth era” where no one cares if a politician did something horrible, they just move on or get convinced otherwise.
  I feel like every argument for supporting Israel is a little flimsy. It just boggles the mind why anyone wants to support such a shitty little country that exclusively does the absolute worst
There's also the concern that if support for Israel is dropped, an Iran-led coalition will go to war with them. Israel being attacked is unimaginable to a lot of people that grew up in the shadow of ww2.
- Iran real only enemy is the USA. Doea they really think that Iran want to crush the whole west?
- I mean, it isn't a concern so much as an obvious fact. If the West dropped support for Israel, Iran and its allies would be invading within the hour.
It's close enough for a soundbite or a headline.

She's right.

- the full quote, which is actually quite accurate and succinct:
  "Because of racism, that's the simple answer I would say. Racism, and uh, basically, desperately trying to defend a destructive deadly system, that systematically puts short term economic profit, and to maximize geopolitical power, over the well being of humans and the planet. And right now it's very very difficult to morally defend that, it is impossible, but still, they are desperately trying which is... absurd is not the word, but there are no words to describe it."
- I'm glad everyone is listening to her and not giving a shit about what you think
- There are other factors. And they're all rooted in racism.
  Even the corruption of things like AIPAC. It's racism weaponized via bribery and blackmail. I don't know what AIPAC is called in other countries and don't care. But I know it exists. And its all just racism.
  There is no grey area here. There is no debate. There are no "buts" here. An illegal settler occupation is ethnically cleansing an indigenous population. There is good and evil. And the ones doing the slaughtering are evil. Categorically, ontologically, indisputably evil. Period.
- This is a naive way to look at a news article.
  She may have elaborated further but do you really think the press is going print an essay over a sound bite? Especially on social media?
  Greta has made longer statements on this, why not look them up before thinking you know something you don't?
- The correct word would be chauvinism: racism is chauvinism based on racial differences, but it could also be based on wealth or religion, on food preferences or anything arbitrary...
  chauvinism is the root cause for all evil in the world
- So if we ship the Palestinians to say Australia, and the Palestinians get support of money and weapons from a major superpower and then start to take land and resources from Australians and start to bomb them to dust. It will be ignored like how it is now?

Israel is the West’s ally so the West backs Israel

Ethics are only used to draw support to your side, they don’t really exist

$$ Money $$

There's no money in helping Gaza.

That's only kind of true. There's a lot of money that could be found in funding Gaza. As someone made a point elsewhere in this thread. Money was made in Ukraine due to us funding it and some creative accounting, but the smart money move was to allow Russia to invade and save money/exploit off the back of the chaos.
In an almost identical way the U.S. could have funded Gaza and made money dragging out the war, but it didn't happen because of decades of entrenched racism and Zionism.
There was no money in helping Ukraine, yet it was done. 100% lack of optics due to racism.
- Not directly, but by sending weapons etc to Ukraine, the US can basically wage war against Russia with no casualties of their own, while replacing the old stuff they send with new stuff, as well as justifying more military spending in the budget. For the right people, there's plenty of profits to be made.
- A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. . . . American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. . . . This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. . . .Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. . . . In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
  Dwight D Eisenhower's farewell address, 1961
  There was absolutely money in Ukraine. When you read "billions of dollars in weapons sent", if Ukraine received the weapons who do you think received the billion dollars?
- Ukraine is one of the worlds bread baskets and critical to global infrastructure. There was very much money in helping Ukraine.
- I would say “interests at large” rather than dollars.
  Ukraine is military strategic interest (nobody in Europe wants to have Russia to randomly decide to start a war with an EU country)
  In Middle East (with oil) is dollars
  In Taiwan is military strategic interest
  On the other side of the spectrum? Myanmar, Gaza, random African conflicts, etc
- And yet, as soon as Trump took office they stopped helping ukraine. Your argument is shit, mate.
- There's rare earth minerals.
  Gaza has nothing other than beachfront real estate, but you got to remove them in order to take advantage of that.

Because of the USA

Europe isn't doing much either. Especially Germany and Italy stay on Israel's side.
- Germany at the very least are very overt about their "unwavering support for Israel" being wholly because they're "the Jewish Nation", which is about the purest Racist motivation possible.
  One might claim, as others did, that for the US geostrategical concerns apply, but for Germany the only reason for their support of that nation whilst it murders Palestinian children is the ethnicity of the genociders.
So, racism.

Not sure if it is just racism here in NL or because the Ukraine war is more important for us here since it is a lot closer and more relevant than us.

The bullshit in the US is also something we have a bigger impact on than the war in Gaza even though we will have new elections soon.

I feel like she is a bit naive about that. Racism is like a really big driving force that has lead us to where we are today, and it is still a huge part of the problem. But even if you snapped racism out of existence right now, I think that specifically the Gaza situation would only slightly improve. I think there are a few really critical things that you would also need to eliminate:

The biggest driving force in that area is religion, both Christianity and Judaism in Israel and the US (not all of them, but a lot of powerful parts of them) really want Jerusalem and Gaza as they are both important parts of the return of the Messiah if I remember correctly
Second and very close to first is power. For the US Israel is the Middle East HQ, supporting the Israeli government is basically non-negotiable. Only if the US government changes to one with actual morals (Yeah right) will they actually go against Israel. And for Israel it is currently with a government built on corruption that leans heavily towards extreme right and religious parties.
The rest are money, racism, and other common culprits.

I truly believe that if tomorrow racism was gone there would be very little difference in the overall situation, and this is not to reduce from fact that racism is a huge reason of how we got here.

I don't know why you are being downvoted because your analysis is on point. Yes it is racism, mainly on the US part, but religion on Israel part.
However, we should note that Israel treats semitic jews as sub-jews. So it's still racism, at its core.
- It's still people thinking that they're better than other people. Because of their skin, their heritage, their religion - that does not really matter. This all counts as racism. She's absolutely right, yet again.

I don't think that's the main reason. Racism is probably a factor, but the main reason is imperialism. Israel benefits The U.S. and NATO strategically. Even if Gazans were, say, russian-speaking Cossacks instead, I think the situation would not be terribly different.

But imperialism IS racist at it's core though. The justification historically (and implicitly today) is these people are better off either dead or under our control, because they don't share our European bloodli- I mean values.
- What was the motivation when the Aztecs or Mongolians did it?
  The motivation is not ethnicity. It's resources.
  Always has been.
- Yeah, racism is a huge impetus for imperialism, sure. But if for some reason Gazans gradually became white over the past 75 years, I don't think the imperialism would stop now. The log's rolling.

Systemic is an important word to include. Systemic racism.

Is this that weird, newfangled definition of racism where the actual beliefs and intentions of the actors arent considered, but the outcomes of a particular racial group are, so any action that makes a racial group worse off relative to any other racial group is racism?
Because if so, this statement seems very cart-before-the-horse. "If all racial groups were equally impacted by all actions, this wouldn't be happening" is true, I guess... But it's kind of like saying "if no one ever got murdered, this wouldn't be happening."
- Systemic racism refers to the systems and structures that create and perpetuate racial inequality in society, affecting various aspects of life, including wealth, employment, housing, healthcare, education, and the criminal justice system. It's not just about individual prejudice, but rather about the deeply embedded discriminatory practices, policies, and beliefs within institutions.

AIPAC

What does that mean?
- American Israeli Political Action Committee - a very right wing group that backs politicos seeking election while ensuring the strings attached include unquestioning support for Israel.
- Money for US politicians, weapons for Israel and more dead palestinians.
  https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
Vote for non aipac politicians
- Aipac's sole job is to make that either impossible or unlikely to work. They're very good at that.

Sounds right?... Right?

Also money and power.
- Brought to you by, racism (nepotism too to another degree)
- I like to think the rich and powerful want to subjugate all people equally.
- So, racism.

Judaism and Islam don't make good neighbors? Who knew

The problem isn't Judaism, the problem is white colonialism.

Pro-Semitic racism is a new one

It's not because of racism. Racism is a byproduct of mountains of shame looking for someone to blame. The real issue is imperialism and empire and capitalism in crisis. When people are stupid and ignorant, they turn into an angry mob. They become tribal. It's only through enlightenment and education that people will ever see the forest through the trees. Capitalism will end all life on this planet. liberalism was just something to slow it down. America is not and was never a democracy. America is a colonial settler project. Whatever ism, you want to complain about, it's just surface level nonsense. There is no war but the class war. I will not replicate. I'm not that cruel and I'm just here to watch the world burn.

Nah. It's a war of religion, so even more stupid. Christians think this is all signs of the End Times and are counting on the rapture.

It can be both.
That just fuc.....
looks around
Ya know, I'm not gonna count that out just yet.
Then why are they not preventing the objectively abhorrent genocide in Burma that even China has assisted to prevent?
- Because they don't give a fuck?

Progressive is the new democrats. You just want to feel better about things. It's not a necessity for you subconciously that things get better. You will probably be the next generation of boomers. Edward Bernays second set of children managing perception. It could be argued. There hasn't been much human progress.

Lol, what a loser

She is kind of clueless, but yeah. At least maybe sparks people thinking.

You seem kind of clueless about the 13 min interview where she speaks fully, from which this brief quote is taken. But at least maybe sparks people listening to more than just quotes.
She has achieved far more than you ever will
Well I guess governments like the US do use racism to convince their supporter base that what Israel is doing is good, essentially by equating a whole nation with potential for terrorism. and this fits the narrative in many people's head when the said nation is mostly middle eastern, has brown skin and speaks arabic.
But this is just one such tool. There is religion, nationalism, fear mongering etc etc The real reason is as always, insanities revolving around wanting more and more and more power.
- Literally everything is manipulation. Nobody questions why this particular girl was allowed to speak in front of the EU. Nobody thinks about why things happen. Who are selected and who is not. What agenda is played out.
  If you as a teenager wants to talk to the EU, you think you can just do that? Many questions.
How do you mean clueless?