Cyclists don’t break traffic laws any more than drivers, says new study

I still prefer walking over biking over transit with cars being only if no other option but yeah I have had the cyclist who is annoyed at me for following the law but to be fair I have also gotten that with cars. I was hit from behind by a guy who accelerated as I breaked as the light turned yellow. Then when he came out he said. Oh well I did not expect you to stop short like that. WTF!

True and that is why I do the yield sign thing. Im pretty much not slowing down but not accelerating. Just coasting through while I keep an eye on if I need to stop. Bikes moves so slowly relative to cars that most cars "stop" is not much slower than my coast.

At lights? I constantly see cyclists go through reds because no car is coming.

they literally could forget I’m there their Field of view is so bad

I'm a school bus driver and last year we had an incident where I was behind another bus driver and we were both waiting to turn left at an intersection. While our light was still red, a cyclist rode up on the right and came to a stop right next to the bus ahead of us. I was like "that dude is gonna get hit" and sure enough when the driver ahead of me made her left turn, her tail swing clipped the cyclist and knocked him over. I had tried to warn her but our radios don't work half the time.

The dude was unhurt but irate and after we'd pulled over I had to stand in front of the guy and physically prevent him from climbing on her bus while he yelled. I'm also an avid cyclist and I told him it was entirely his fault for creeping up next to a school bus, which is an even worse thing to do than with most trucks because of how much bus protrudes behind the rear wheels (which causes the tail swing when turning). He of course refused to see this - he cycles around our district a lot and is one of those insane people who thinks bicycling on the wrong side of the road against traffic is a smart thing to do, even around blind turns.

I used to live in center city Philadelphia and it was very common to see cyclists sailing through red lights, not only without stopping but without even looking to see if there was cross-traffic coming. I just don't understand how they could do this without dying at incredibly high rates, given that cars there don't pay much mind to red lights either. Bike fatalities are very common in Philly, but it's usually some law-abiding cyclist in a bike lane getting flattened by a truck making a right turn.

Fair. If someone almost clips you in their car because they ran a stop sign, you're lucky to be alive lmao

Lights should not be yield. At most, they should be stop signs

I admit not obeying traffic rules all the time when cycling. When I break rules I do so when it is safe. Often there is a choice between the rules and safety. Some bike lanes are unsafe and need to be avoided. Sometimes I break rules in the interest of conserving momentum, because building speed takes effort. I only do so when it is safe. As a cyclist I have a good view of traffic around me and I can often get off the road if necessary, which cars can't.

I'm not going to go through the red light when there are cars passing through... That would be stupid.

It's like that in my city too when people decide to drive on the streets designated as greenways. You want bikers out of your way? Give them another place to go and they'll gladly use it to get away from you. It sounds like you're describing a place where there is only car infrastructure so bikers are forced into traffic situations built for cars. That means every one of them interprets what they are supposed to be doing (either for safety or to follow the law) differently.

Think about it this way. Someone parked in the bike lane? I'm swerving into traffic. Person doesn't see me and starts merging at me? I'm swerving into another lane. Someone intentionally decides to ride my ass? I'm getting out of their way before they get violent, possibly putting me in front of you.

Tired of bikers in your 'car lanes'? Give them their own lane. A person in a car does not have any more value or rights than a person on a bike. And their infrastructure costs tons more.

Then go fucking slower so you don't risk killing people. It's not hard.

You understand that gottagofast is no less murderous intent than celebratory gunfire?

If the infrastructure/driving conditions are bad enough you run almost the same danger when driving lawfully. Eventually you learn to trust your senses more than traffic laws. Sometimes it's actually safer to break some laws as a pedestrian/cyclist. Maybe people who ride a lot get used to it eventually and don't see running a red light (when no cars are passing) as more dangerous than going on green.

It's cars that cause injuries, not red lights. If you can see there are no cars coming and the light is red, it's safer than going on green and just assuming that all the cars stop at their red. On a bike the main thing protecting you from injury is situational awareness. Traffic laws are a distant second.

Some [person] flipped me off just because I ... flipped him off

Shocking, he didn't kiss your ring??

Oh 4 wheelers don't stop half the time. You have to lock eyes with the driver and assert dominance as a pedestrian so they understand that you will sue them for everything they're worth if they touch you.

To give you an idea of NYC drivers, I almost got run over once by a guy flooring it in reverse out of a one way side street, turning sharply onto the pedestrian crossing. We flipped each other off then he sped off

I see you've never been hit by a truck.

Huh, neat. So as a percentage of the population, drivers break the law more often, and it is always more dangerous when they do.

Any chance of a link to those stats for the UK? It'll be great to show my students.