Extreme porn ‘radicalising’ young men, says Ireland’s garda chief

I thought it was the gays, oh wait no its the transes, hang on we're back to the 1500s and are just saying "it's smut". It's very "violent video games turn men into violent monsters".

Want to really know what's radicalising young men: a mixed hangover of "the provider role" clinging on, two decades of economic implosion, and normalised sexism aimed at addressing systemic injustices. That's how you end up with radicalised young men.

apparently they gotta follow uk policy, word for word, bar for bar.

I watched a Sasha Grey compilation and now a bust of Karl Marx appeared on my desk

Fuck yeah, spread it
I watched Mia Khalifa and now I'm an Islamist.
- That’s wild because Mia Khalifa is a Christian

That's not really convincing and leaves me entirely unsure which is the more likely explanation:

Young men's taste in porn has turned towards more violent stuff, which would be a bad sign for society at large
Shitty algorithms on porn sites are pushing people towards more objectionable stuff just like they do on youtube
Porn is about the same since the 1970s and the idea that it's getting worse is a fabrication

More like:
The chief of the garda is a sick bastard who thinks everyone likes what he likes
- While Harris admitted his own observations were more anecdotal, he said that both the descriptions of incidents and the attitudes of offenders show that online violence has been normalised.
  Pretty much
I'm going to go for 3. The vintage stuff can be really gross and misogynistic sometimes. Which is what you'd expect from the era depicted in Mad Men.
I would definitely say the middle. Don’t get me wrong, I avidly enjoy bdsm, but most of the “rough stuff” on pornhub doesn’t look particularly enjoyable for any party - amateur has always been better for that sort of thing.
I don’t use Tik Tok, but I believe there have also been some questionable trends regarding choking and other kink stuff being shown in unhealthy ways(constrict the bloodways, not the windpipe, folks!)
- Yeah as a woman who has been involved in irl bdsm communities most of her adult life, but doesn't really watch mainstream porn (I read what I read), I'm not surprised.
  Whenever bdsm goes even remotely mainstream we get a lot of people who learned to do what we do via unreliable sources. Those sources range from "it seemed hot so I tried without thinking" to, books like 50 shades or the story of O or the gor books, to whatever the hell they hear on tiktok or fetlife or reddit or usenet… And for every person who shows up and fucks up in front of people who can correct them, it's safe to assume there are quite a few doing stupid and dangerous shit in the privacy of their bedrooms.

Therefore, we need more intrusive surveillance, right?!

Which of these ones you think is more likely?

the police head reported the results of a scientific study that explores the correlation between crimes and porn preferences
some idiot boomer finally managed to visit pornhub and was shocked by what they found

(not saying the boomer would be the police head - I don't know him and for all I know he's a person of at least average intelligence)

~50 years of legal porn and society still hasn't collapsed.

It's the other way around chief, radicalized young men seek out extreme porn because they ain't getting any of that vanilla loving.
And the way to getting that is properly educating them on consent and treating their partner with the equal love and respect they yearn for.

Also going and and actually interacting with those.... "Females", was it?
- Wrong! You don't interact with the females. That's needy beta behavior. You make the females interact with you, they need to feel their need for you
  Did I get this one right Mr. Tate?
- Stop it Patrick, you're scaring them!

Porn doesn't cause men to become violent any more than video games do. There's no study I'm aware of or a direct link to show causation other than the sensationalization of the topic.

This feels like just another excuse to seize control over the levers of privacy the people of a country have access to.

Lack of any punishment for antisocial behavior for young men in Ireland is radicalising them. Garda doesn't even try to arrest any of them when they acting like shit because they are getting released anyway.

Punishment, treatment, family support, victim support, anything would be nice!

I remember hearing this argument for videogames 🙄

Irish lads better be prepared for the government to be taking away your wanking licences.

An Armalite in one hand, and a tissue box in the other.

Every ISP and device has built in parental features.

@Davriellelouna@lemmy.world
I wonder if certain... genres of adult content (such as female dominance and lesdom) would be "extreme porn" and/or "violence against women" according to his (and whoever shares his) worldview... Guess these people don't know how there are different... "entertainment subcultures".

Also, the obvious was already said throughout the comment section: just another justification for things such as what's happening with itch.io and Steam, alongside the KYC requirement that's been implemented in many places worldwide. It's tiring, really tiring to watch these things unfolding in real time across the globe.

Oh lesbian bdsm has a history of being particularly cracked down on as "violence against women." The other option would be for lawmakers and academics to meet with communities for sapphic sadomasochism (and for women involved in bdsm as a whole, straight submissive women also deserve protection from lawmakers seeking to protect them) and to try to find paths forward that create a safer and more free world.

Everybody’s hugging!