Reminder that being gay, a woman with opinions, or a slave who wanted freedom, all used to be mental illnesses as well. What is and isn't a mental illness largely depends on social norms.
I think the key thing there that tips off they weren't really illnesses/disabilities was that those caused other people issues and discomfort, not the people "suffering" from them.
Sure, but I'm not standing next to a group of miserable "neurodivergent" kids, pointing and laughing, but dissing a meme that maybe 100 people will see and even that only because it's got comments under it (because 3 people got offended by my comment).
This whole thing should be a meme about how eger people are to get offended even if there is nothing there. Maybe it's because Lemmy is so small, so there isn't that much to get that fix from. Something worth while to think about.
Classic, not thinking something through before posting a dismissive comment. Lots of things are a normal part of existence, but quantity matters.
It's normal for people to cry, but if you're crying all the time and it's keeping you from living your life, there is something else going on.
It's normal for everyone to have to take a shit suddenly sometimes, but if it's happening so often you have to plan your life around it, there is something else going on, and if you're shiting yourself to death, you might have dysentery.
I'm not saying I agree with all the stuff that the kids these days are saying about neurodivergence, but I am saying that you show a remarkable lack of critical thinking and ability to contextualize.
I'm saying you are bored and didn't find anything to trigger you, so you went way way out of your way to get offended by what I wrote, then went in with an insult to try to get this thing going.
You get a smile out of me. 🙂
Be well, take care, bye.
Being scared of rejection is an inherently human reaction to desire. Famously explored constantly in media throughout history. Bitterness is borne on the back of rejection. Joy comes briefly on acceptance. The anxiety of indecision supplies either motivation or a hopeless mire. In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
Not only to be sure they want to talk to me but also to be sure we are still friends. I swear to god I never know, and when I risk t, it's still feels like a 50/50 for me.
And then you get an invite from a person you would have thought you aren't friends with, based on their behavior. Time to start a game I like to call: "Is it an invite out of politeness/because of a social norm I'm missing or is this an actual invite because we are friends and I missed that"
Ahhh... if only it was just talking... In my late 20s, talking to a girl (now married) about our high school days, she told me that by the time she liked me but I didn't answer to her "signals" so she thought I wasn't into her (I was, so badly). I wasn't sure so I never asked her out even though, apparently, it was clear to everyone else.
Not a MD. IME this form of social anxiety, while not exclusive to NDs, is indeed common for us.
As to why, the simplest explanation is that it’s a corollary of divergence itself that we internalize early on: in spite of my motive, effort, or attempts at masking, I am just incapable of truly understanding or perhaps even accurately predicting the thoughts and feelings of others, and vice-versa. The self-isolation OOP describes then easily follows, since the best/safest bet is against yourself until proven otherwise.
Personally what disabused me of this behavior was the realization that most people, including NTs, have their own analog of it. That is, many feel like outsiders for various reasons unrelated to ND, and they similarly self-exclude. It’s a useful realization because it lets you cut the knot by giving others what you wanted yourself.
ETA: Specifically, when you focus on others’ inclusion, you (A) create the same for yourself to an equal or greater extent, and (B) over time find it less important that they reciprocate equally than whether you succeed in communicating that they belong. Many things become easier after that.
A lot of this "Neuro divergent" stuff kids make memes about these days is actually just a normal human experience.
Reminder that being gay, a woman with opinions, or a slave who wanted freedom, all used to be mental illnesses as well. What is and isn't a mental illness largely depends on social norms.
I think the key thing there that tips off they weren't really illnesses/disabilities was that those caused other people issues and discomfort, not the people "suffering" from them.
You are comparing people making memes about feeling slightly bothered because of a small inconvenience with some of the biggest human rights fights.
I'm not gonna ... 😁
Indeed, however it might be dialed up to like 300% of neurotypicals and literally damaging your body.
So yes, some things are relatable or the typical 'ah yes I have that sometimes' but in absolute unrelatable overdrive.
And trilializing traits under which people are suffering can sometimes be really discouraging or worsening depression.
Sure, but I'm not standing next to a group of miserable "neurodivergent" kids, pointing and laughing, but dissing a meme that maybe 100 people will see and even that only because it's got comments under it (because 3 people got offended by my comment).
This whole thing should be a meme about how eger people are to get offended even if there is nothing there. Maybe it's because Lemmy is so small, so there isn't that much to get that fix from. Something worth while to think about.
Classic, not thinking something through before posting a dismissive comment. Lots of things are a normal part of existence, but quantity matters.
It's normal for people to cry, but if you're crying all the time and it's keeping you from living your life, there is something else going on.
It's normal for everyone to have to take a shit suddenly sometimes, but if it's happening so often you have to plan your life around it, there is something else going on, and if you're shiting yourself to death, you might have dysentery.
I'm not saying I agree with all the stuff that the kids these days are saying about neurodivergence, but I am saying that you show a remarkable lack of critical thinking and ability to contextualize.
I'm saying you are bored and didn't find anything to trigger you, so you went way way out of your way to get offended by what I wrote, then went in with an insult to try to get this thing going.
You get a smile out of me. 🙂 Be well, take care, bye.
Being scared of rejection is an inherently human reaction to desire. Famously explored constantly in media throughout history. Bitterness is borne on the back of rejection. Joy comes briefly on acceptance. The anxiety of indecision supplies either motivation or a hopeless mire.
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
I wish you a pleasant mental problem that you're dismissive of
You wish me a mental problem...
That's weird, but ok. This one in OP Lol? That's not really anything close to being one.
Take it easy and have a wonderful day. Bye.
Normal people are more comfortable to be with others than to be by themselfes. For neurodiverse, it's the reverse.
Not necessarily, plenty of completely typical people enjoy spending time alone, and many neurodiverse people thrive in social settings.
that's like telling a blind person they're faking it because you need glasses
No, that's like telling a person faking it, they are faking it.