What you guys are hosting instead of Nextcloud? I'm sick of it.

If you're having issues with NextCloud being slow and having errors, it's probably because the machine you are running it on is low on RAM and/or CPU.

I bring this up because what ever replacements you try would likely have the same issues.

My NextCloud instance was nearly unusable when I had it on a Raspberry PI 3, but when I moved it to a container on my faster machine (AMD Ryzen 7 4800U with 16GB of ram) it now works flawlessly.

I have my issues with Nextcloud, but it's still, by far, the best solution I've come across.

What exactly have you tried to do to address your nextCloud problems?

I was on the same boat when I was running NC on a container. I switched to VM, and most of my issues have been resolved, but collabora. I am currently using the built-in collabora server, which is slow.

• Syncthing for files.
• Proton calendar (so not self hosted)
• Joplin, using file based sync with aforementioned syncthing. I saw you didn't like it though.
• I occasionally use scp

Same and looking forward to the responses here. Nextcloud is too big and complicated. I deployed Immich to cover for the photo library. Still looking for a good solution for notes though.

Sorry to hear you've had a bad experience. I've been running the lsio Nextcloud docker container for 4 years without any issues at all.

I use pydio for cloud drive. I think you can try this

You have not stated the hardware you are running this on. It makes a huge difference. Hope this is not Raspi?

This is concerning to me because I’ve been considering ditching Synology and spinning up nextcloud. I like Synology drive but I’m tired of the underpowered hardware and dumb roadblocks and vendor lock-in nonsense. I’m very curious what you end up doing!

Owncloud.

I personally never caught the Nextcloud hype, and stuck with the original. So far I've heard (and seen, having tried it twoce) nothing but trouble from Nextcloud while my Owncloud install continues to be rock solid for going on 10 years (regularly updated, of course!).

I use linuxserver.io's nextcloud docker image. While I've seen people struggle to setup Nextcloud properly to the point of just giving and installing the snap version of it, I can count the number of times I've needed to do manual interventions for nextcloud with LSIO's nextcloud image. It works like a charm.

PSA: saying "I run Nextcloud and don't have any problems" doesn't help anyone or contribute anything useful to the conversation. It just makes you look like an insecure fanboy.

I open source my homelab as much as I can. But when it comes to backups of my family's photos, servers, and laptops I don't want troubleshoot bugs that could cost me valuable data and time; that's why I gladly pay for a Synology NAS.

Take a look at Cloudreve

I used Nextcloud + Samba by the side for awhile, these days I use Samba exclusively, mounting takes basically no time whatsoever and syncthing for synchronization stuff

Files: Filerun or File Browser both allow upload and download. I prefer the former as it allows me to preview file contents more broadly (e.g. pictures and videos). But it is paid.

Calendar: DecSync or Radicale both have no web UI. I prefer the former because it doesn't need a server at all, just a file sync solution. But, if you have an iPhone there are no clients and you'd have to setup a radicale server anyway.

Notes: Like others have said, Obsidian with Obsidian-livesync.

The nice thing about Filerun/DecSync/Obsidian is they store or serve files in close to their original format (e.g. files/xml/plaintext), so you can still open the file up on any computer and read its contents the way you normally would.

Did you switch Nextcloud from SQLite to another database?

Other than that, chances are, whatever makes your Nextcloud install slow will also affect Seafile or whatever else you replace it with.

I spent some time with top and iotop debugging my server performance problems. I found an issue that was completely unrelated to Nextcloud. Since I fixed it my Nextcloud instance has been completely reliable.

I looked into Seafile as well but disliked that it stores my files in some weird block format.

For Calendar I highly recommend radicale. Super easy to setup and has a non bloated management ui. Has worked flawlessly over the last years

Perhaps you need something to trigger the webcron so things don’t slow down to a crawl. I use uptime Kuma to trigger the webcron every five minutes and have never had any issues.

If you are willing to consider commercial products, I can recommend Synology DiskStations (at least the plus series). Samba shares are quite easy to setup, you can use Synology Drive to sync a folder between workstations and Android phones which I use for Obsidian for note taking. They also have calendar options, but I use a hosted account at posteo for that.

If you want to stick to nextcloud but don't want to host it, you could consider Hetzner Storage Share. It's fully managed and worked great for me so far. But I only use it to share photos with others, so not all features.

Give Radicale a try for CalDAV and CardDAV.

Me as well I don’t like nextcloud at all

Need something like synology drive but open source

Notes: Memos

https://www.usememos.com/

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Calendar: still Nextcloud (caldav is fast enough in nextcloud, even with sqlite) or SOGo

https://sogo.nu

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Files: Owncloud OCIS (not the old PHP one)

https://owncloud.dev/ocis/

Trillium , file browser

Sadly there is no real alternative right now if you want anything close to what the cloud providers do. Synthing is the only thing I use that comes close to parts of it. Nextcloud is just a slow insecure mess.

Next cloud must be the worst piece of shit ever

I never stop seeing people complain about it :(

It sounds like the sync aspect was written by the crash plan folks.

This is where I am right now as well. The main thing (or really the only thing in fact) I use nextcloud for now is file storage, because when it works, it works damn well. I only really need something that can upload and download files easily, which I guess there are alternative for that, but I also need to be able to share the files via link and share links where other people can upload files for me, which so far Nextcloud does the best of the bunch I've tried... So I'm kinda stuck on the decision to switch for now...

Filebrowser for files, Trillium for notes

I used NC with postgresql, apps works fine and pretty smooth in everything. Compared to mysql it definitely feel faster.

But now I have no use for NC, I installed File Browser for file exploring. Super simple web file browser.

Focalboard, for kanban.

Obsidian with sync.

I would have nothing but issues if I ran the docker app on unraid and used the sqlexpress built in. I switched over to CasaOS and use Mariasql and the nextcloud container on it and it has been solid.

Did you try hosting it in a container? I've heard a lot of people had issues with dependencies, PHP, Apache until they moved to a container.

It doesn't solve the optimization though. That's still an issue for people I know who host nextcloud.

Complaints seem to come mostly from people trying to run it on ARM, maybe NC isn't optimized for that architecture.

I moved Nextcloud from k8s to a well provisioned lxc container and ran a couple of performance boosting commands and it's been working wonders since then

I've been a loyal owncloud and then nextcloud user but am growing disappointed in the nextcloud android app. It seems like support/development is quickly degrading. There's a file upload conflict big that was introduced in an update in September? and they still haven't rolled back or resolved the issue. https://github.com/nextcloud/android/issues/11974

Try Nextcloud-AIO and install the Preview Generator as well. (note that you will need to run it manually the first time). I did struggle as well, before I found the AIO. Now I'm happy. :-)

Synology Drive is rock solid. Not open source though if that's important to you and technically requires Synology hardware.

I love idea of Nextcloud, but its overall concept of doing everything, but nothing well enough was one of the reasons I've decided to build S3Drive. We squeeze most of the "file-management" experience out of the protocol itself. That means that all you need to self-host is the S3 storage server (e.g. MinIO)... but if you don't feel like it just yet you can buy S3 from anyone else (e.g. Backblaze / Wasabi / Synology / Cloudflare etc.) and enable 100% Rclone compatible E2E encryption to protect your privacy.

Did you tried installing it with snap?

Its just snap install nextcloud and you are done. No config no manual updates and iam having a good time with it. It was a bit tricky to change the main storage folder to another hdd, but its possible.

That maybe fix your Performance issues too if there is something configured wrong, in the other hand snap is a bit slower then a normal install.

Don't use Nextcloud. Just use Syncthing to keep the files synchronized in all the different devices where you actually do the work.

Is there something better than DAVx5? It seems to be too battery hungry compared to Google calendar.

Just came to say I self host baikal too for calendar and address book / tasks

use DavX on my Android phone to keep it in sync and thunderbird on the computer

IMO Joplin is a better idea for note taking

It's the right choice, nextcloud is buggy af, the issue from years ago where it randomly corrupts files is still open too, I got hit by that one and had to completely restore from a backup.

Nextcloud is a large and complex application, it does need more resources than one would probably expect.

Nextcloud macOS and iOS apps make running it a no-brainer for me. Nextcloud on macOS works better than Google Drive.

Went from nextcloud to FileBrowser for web files access, with resilio/syncthing under the hood for synchronisation. My family couldn’t be happier, but yeah - we are not using calendar futures.

I moved Nextcloud from k8s to a well provisioned lxc container and ran a couple of performance boosting commands and it's been working wonders since then

• Files --> syncthing, or ssh access, or vpn to samba
• Calendar --> I recommend radicale (but use google)
• Notes --> Obsidian notes on top of syncthing

I love the idea of nextcloud but it really seems pretty hostile towards hosters I would suggest looking at something like Cryptpad which is at least an upgrade to your personal security.

Nextcloud was painfully slow on a cheap HDD based VPS, I finally moved it to SSD and it's been fast. With redis and SSD its quick. I'd take a look at your system to make sure that's not the cause.

u/Sudden_Cheetah7530 We also use Nextcloud and deploy it on Kubernetes with our Open Source Nextcloud Operator and it works without any issues so far. I hope that helps you too

https://github.com/glasskube/operator

Good ole manual file sharing and syncthing for my phone pics

Files: SYNCTHING CalcardDav: Baikal Notes: Obsidian with livesync plugin and a couchdb as backend ...yeah and webdav for folder shares inside apples files app

Files: Seafile
Calendar: Radicale
Notes: Joplin
Network Folder: N/A

I use pydio cells for file sharing.

I would say Seafile, and especially their webserver "seahub", which is written in Python and Django, is just pure garbage. I'm using Seafile since 2012, and I'm honestly so sick of its problems. It just crashes for no good reason, and the encryption is extremely mediocre (there's been issues about it). I have it behind my VPN so security isn't a big deal.

Because it's written with the garbage Python + Django, just try moving your installation to a new version... and you'll be stuck with a very specific version of a bunch of libraries or otherwise seahub won't even launch... and to make it even better, you don't get anything on stdout/stderr to tell you what's wrong, unless you launch Seahub in a specific configuration mode (WSAPI or something?).

Seafile has become so bad that I stopped caring about tracking its issues. I set my docker container to just restart on health checks' failure, and forgot about it. My status tracker shows that it's shutdown, and eventually it'll restart. "Hey look, Seafile is down." And I respond "That's OK, dear, just give it another 15 minutes and it'll restart". This is my status on Seafile.

I think Seahub needs a complete revamp.

Those guys coded Seafile like a decade ago and they don't care about fixing it anymore. Github is cluttered with issues.

i dont understand how some people have lots of issue with NC and some people say its all good

i have tried many times to switch to NC, It always slow (given that it running locally next to me, i expect it to be snappy) and throws me some error after somedays. I really wanted to use NC, so many things in one package

NC AIO has been good for me and support has been awesome. Seafuke is Chinese so I don’t trust it. At least NC is German and has some privacy stuff.

Filerun is good

Don't get me wrong NextCloud is great and has a lot of helpful features out of the box, but I moved from this to just use;

• Samba: for mounting drives shares.
• CalDav: for shared calendars.
• CardDav: for shared contacts.
• Memos: for note taking, great little room that allows Markdown note with tagging for easy search and filter.
• Espo CRM: for logging communication with businesses, like utilities providers (comes in handy to refer to during disputes)

I'm also looking at installing a self-hosted office suite for word and Excel documents but haven't set this up yet.

Sounds like you need a Synology NAS...

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