Language barrier
Language barrier
Language barrier
Is anyone going to mention it looks like a dick?
"I thought he said '6 inch and gravy'"
If I was Alton, I'd have laughed my ass off
Brisket and gravy makes sense as a meal, but wtf is biscuits and gravy?
I'm British and there's no end of meals that I would have gravy with, but biscuits isn't one of them.
I can tell it's a cultural/language thing because North Americans call biscuits cookies, but I don't know what they mean by biscuits here.
No one in the US eats brisket with gravy. It would typically be a tomato based bbq sauce or nothing.
They're delicious. A biscuit is a small, palm sized baked goods made with flour and fat. They're fluffy, and you pull them in half, put some butter on them, and eat them.
Gravy is a speckled chicken gravy, a white gravy sometimes with sausage in it, and it goes well with the biscuits
In addition to the biscuit recipe Tony replied with, the gravy in question is normally a white gravy made from "breakfast sausage" (ground pork with spices, particularly sage) and black pepper. The dish is salty, savory, and quite filling. Mostly served for breakfast with eggs and/or hashbrowns.
It’s not just a language barrier, it’s also a cultural barrier. I can imagine someone being confused by this even if they speak fluent English, as the dish ‘biscuits and gravy’ contains neither biscuits nor gravy.
Um... literally every time I've had biscuits and gravy, it's literally gravy poured over biscuits. Every time. Without fail. It's kind of in the name.
Why does white/sausage gravy not count as gravy, in your view?
Why don’t apples count as pears? Why does black not count as white?
This is what biscuits look like
The stuff you refer to is a ragout, not a gravy.
Yeah, English is my only language and I was thinking wtf is biscuits and gravy? How does that go together in any way?
I don't need to imagine this.
I watched the Great British Bakeoff Mexican week.
Yea I'm a northern neighbor of the US, and while we do have of common cultural elements, it's my first time hearing of that meal.
Originally biscuits were just hardtack since they had to be rebaked in water to properly be eaten. Shortbread cookies and baking soda leavened bread both diverged from this common root and as such both qualify as biscuits equally.
The definition of it is actually what it is though. White gravy is still gravy. And Making it a brisket is hardly that different. I mean swap the bread with the meat ok, but hardly a stretch.
I have never seen this show, but I have a hard time believing he managed to entirely cook the wrong thing and no one told him at any point. Unless it was done on purpose to make a good story...
You are totally on point. Here's the source: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hd6r9 (from 18:55).
They noticed right in the beginning and totally didn't do anything to fix the misunderstanding until it was too late. And of course that happened for the purpose to make a good story.
Often on cooking shows like this, contestants will do something creative and different in order to stand out, so it makes sense that they'd wait and see what he's cooking up.
Honestly I think they took the best possible approach, they let the creative create, and when it was revealed that there was in fact a communication breakdown, they handled it fairly and made sure to not penalize the contestant for the host's failure to effectively communicate. This is especially important with such an exceptionally regional dish with many different ways to prepare it. People who haven't spent time in the region that its regularly served in may entirely misunderstand how its supposed to be prepared and served, and that causes there to be incredible variation between recipes and approaches
Idk when it got so common for people to basically say “I have no idea what I’m talking about and have zero experience in this matter but this feels like bullshit” but pretty sure it’s actively destroying the planet.
Yeah, it's quite common to claim that someone else has zero experience on the matter and accusing them of actively destroying the planet, without actually having a point.
Here's the source: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hd6r9 (from 18:55 on).
So yes, everyone else noticed it right from the beginning and they neither told him about his misunderstanding nor did they let him just redo the 60 second "shopping" part where they collect the ingredients they need.
So stop being fake-outraged and look at the source.
I didn't feel like this requires expertise. It's a cooking show, contestants are surrounded by other people who can plainly observe what they are doing. The complete lack of biscuit preparation while getting out the meat would have been very obvious.
All these reality shows love to foster misunderstandings and exacerbate through editing. Frankly they'd be even more boring otherwise.
Honestly I'd rather have brisket and gravy.
I firmly disagree. A good Biscuits and Gravy is the perfect breakfast food. I am part of a Brunch Bunch and have had hundreds of different Biscuits and Gravy. It's my go to dish for judging a restaurant.
There's a breakfast place near me that has absolutely phenomenal gravy, but shitty store bought biscuits. I too, love biscuits and gravy, and I like their gravy but hate their biscuits, so what's a man to do? Sourdough toast and gravy, my friend! I've actually come to prefer sourdough toast and gravy over biscuits and gravy most of the time, unless the place has amazing biscuits.
Third option: brisket and gravy on biscuits.
I want brisket on a biscuit with gravy.
I’d be happy with either
Can you imagine being the chef who went home in that round, though?
I might not agree with Alton Brown on all the opinions I’ve seen him post, but I have the impression that he’s someone who’s trying in general not to make things harder than they need to be (except of course when that’s exactly what the challenge is in the game that everyone signed up to play, what with all the wacky sabotage options on Cutthroat Kitchen).
Can you imagine being the chef who went home in that round, though?
You mean, if I lost to somebody who managed to make decent brisket in half an hour?
I mean, if he went home his biscuit and gravy weren't amazing I guess.
Brisket and gravy looks yum. Don’t see the problem here.
Our society is so wasteful and entitled if we’re getting pissy at this level.
No way in fuck is anyone cooking a brisket in under 6 hours without it being inedibly chewy.
Do you have a moment to discuss our lord and savior the pressure cooker?
It's possible, but it comes out more like a pot roast in my opinion. The fastest brisket I've ever completed to satisfaction was 2 hours for I think an 8-10lb brisket at like 300 in a green egg. It wasn't planned, the fire just got away from me but it came out like 87% as good as a true low and low brisket.
I imagine he cooked only a small part of it in a pressure cooker it might work.
Pressure cookers (and their scary cousin the pressure fryer) are kitchen witchcraft.
He made a brisket in the time it takes to make biscuits and gravy? I don’t think so.
A pressure cooker can work wonders.
Even then, it would take that long to prep and heat up to pressure.
How TF did he do a brisket in the same amount of time it would take to make biscuits, which are basically scones, which take 20 minutes?
And who eats gravy with brisket? Doesn’t sound bad though.