UN delegates hold mass walkout as Netanyahu insists Israel must ‘finish job’ in Gaza
UN delegates hold mass walkout as Netanyahu insists Israel must ‘finish job’ in Gaza
I'm so sick of all of the performative grandstanding. Grab this fucker and throw him in a deep hole. Nice walkout guys, you really showed him.
Cool but have those countries ended trade with Israel? Declared sanctions? Sent military aid to the PLO? Establish a no-fly zone? I'm glad this happened, its a start, but it's not enough and Gaza is running out of time.
Imagine a world where the US respected the International Criminal Court and this man was arrested the minute he set foot on American soil.
Ok, so hear me out. The ICC is a UN body. The UN headquarters is international soil. Why couldn't the UN security services arrest him and send him to stand trial at the ICC?
Because of this the American Service Members Protection Act
The act gives the president power to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court.
This authorization led to the act being nicknamed "The Hague Invasion Act", since the act would allow the president to order military action in The Hague, the seat of the ICC, to prevent American or allied officials and military personnel from being prosecuted or detained by the ICC.
The subsection (b) specifies this authority shall extend to "Covered United States persons" (members of the ("Armed Forces of the United States"), elected or appointed officials of the United States Government, and other persons employed by or working on behalf of the United States Government) and "Covered allied persons" (military personnel, elected or appointed officials, and other persons employed by or working on behalf of the government of a NATO member country, a major non-NATO ally including Australia, Egypt, Israel, Japan, Argentina, the Republic of Korea, and New Zealand).
Trump would then go gaga against the ICC.
How would they get him out of the building?
Apparently, Israel hacked phones in Gaza to blast out Netanyahu's speech as he was giving it. If that had happened in the Superman movie, the audience would have said that's a bit too comic book villainous.
By contrast the wanted war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu received over FIFTY standing ovations when he addressed the US Congress last year.
Like... some sort of Final Solution, you say?
They told us they're clearing up the "vermin".
Some sort of option?
Hans?
Ja?
i know right!
just in time, phew
this is the peace plan, i know it in my soul, i was reading km this morning, oh it was so good, it just said hamas will make peace to me over and over and over again
yay
It would be great if they would all walk out on Trump too.
Half of them probably fell asleep about 20 minutes into his insane rant
Twenty minutes is about how long a normal person can be reasonably expected maintain attention, even if the content is interesting. That's why TED talks are 20 minutes long.
On the other hand, Trump's rants are mind numbing. You're either seriously trained at listening, or you have something wrong with your brain, if you can listen to him for more than 2 minutes without zoning out.
Yeah a lot of trumps shtick was pretty incendiary.
"Just let me finish up this genocide really quick, please guys..."
It would be great if they all just recognized Palestine as a country and cut all trade with Israel immediately until they stopped. Instead of a symbolic walk out, actually walk out of their lives... And you can verify if they cut their shit out
Why until they stopped?
He's a war criminal. He's lucky that's all they did
Finish its final solution. He should have been rotting in prison a long time ago
He's gonna do it and my tax dollars are gonna pay for it.
Really wish the UN had some kind of method to stop counties from clearly and openly committing genocide
It's called war, but it's not very popular, especially when waged with no economic incentives. Just look at how many Europeans complain about sending help to Ukraine, not even troops.
Not arrest. Not put on trial. Not disarm.
Walkout…
US has veto power. There is no possible way for the UN to do anything.
The UN is flawed by design.
Yeah, but at the time the US could have fought every nation on the planet to a standtill and the USSR could have fought every nation on the planet but the US to a standstill, so there was no way to not make them permanent members of the security council with veto power since they could just ignore other countries if they wanted.
Russia has veto it vote against any resolution about Ukraine. European countries still provide billions in aid and arms to Ukraine to defend itself . The genocide convention is a bigger authority document than UN resolutions
Its been flawed for a pretty long time at this point. The fact that Russia has remained a member for all these years is proof enough of that.
Yes it is flawed, but it was basically "give the 5 largest powers veto power, or they don't participate". If they don't participate, it would be even more ornamental than it currently is.
Ideally they would have more power to stop shit like this, but the UN as it stands is better than nothing. They do bring countries together to talk things through that otherwise might not have and have successfully de-escilated issues in the past.
I'm not saying people shouldn't expect, or push for, better, and I'm not saying this is your view point, but I do see the sentiment that they're useless/do nothing quite often.
Walking out won't ultimately achieve much... But it's at least better than sitting their and letting him feel validated in his psychopathic plans.
The permanent UNSC members with veto power was a huge mistake. But possibly it was nessecary or these members wouldn't have joined at all and the UN would have been stillborn. The US now has cast more vetoes than the rest of the UNSC permanent members combined
I am not asking for a legal framework to enforce acts of anti-genocide.
Tony Blair to rule Gaza for five years. What the fuck is that weird ass fan fiction of reality!? XD
“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born; now is the time of monsters.”
— Antonio Gramsci
i'm going to say something that i'm sure people are going to hate and i may be banned for saying it. buts its just an opinion based on decades and decades of history...
If Israel doesn't finish this now, it is just going to happen again. Its painful to watch, but its the truth. Netanyahu is an ass, but he's right. A two state solution is a fantasy pipe dream that will never ever work.
Ah, yes, because there's only two options: a two state solution or the complete extermination of the entire Palestinian population. Is it really so difficult to imagine one state with equal rights for all? It's not going to be easy getting there after all that's taken place, but it is the only path to justice.
By that logic, Hitler/Nazis should have finished the job too so there would be world peace. If millenia of history and the present is anything to go by, nations keep going to war with each other, so coexistence will never work in the long term.
A two state solution will not work, correct. That is why the world must come together and kick the genocidal Israelis out of the Palestinians land.
But that would cause the dame problem but in reverse. What do you do with all the Israelis who were born and raised there?
I am not defending Isreal. It's just the reality of the situation. I hate what Isreal is doing. But it feels like people forget that hamas is just as horrible.
I don't know why people like you can't seem to comprehend the idea that the Israelis have been living in the region for thousands of years. Yes a lot of Israelis returned to Israel in 20th century, but it is their ancestral homeland (Jews were expelled from the region -- you are aware that they were subject to forced expulsion, aren't you?), and the fact of the matter is european migration to the area goes back to the 1500s. Those migrants didn't steal their land and they didn't just come uninvited.
And both sides have acted in a genocidal manner toward the other at this point. Many people would argue that Israel has even restrained itself. If you want to sit there and act as if Gazans wouldn't kill every single jew in Israel given the opportunity you can go ahead and delude yourself, but they have already stated that they would and the rest of the middle east serves as extremely good evidence of the violently homogenized culture of the region.
You cannot just pick and choose the parts of history which serve your purpose.
Israel has militarily attacked 6 different countries in the last few weeks. So what exactly is the scope of what they supposed to finish?
Fascists do not stop at any point because they cannot. Their power is predicated on eternal war. Not even achieving their insane plan for a "greater Israel" would be enough. The radicalisation based on fear and supremacy does not end when an arbitrary goal is achieved. They absolutely must be stopped.
I don't agree with you on your point about finishing the job.
How is Israel fascist?
Oh wow, some people walked out in an ineffectual symbolic gesture.
What performative wankery. A bunch of them are just sitting down clapping. Did he still speak? Was he arrested?
The final solution to the Palestinian question?