The funny thing about these DDos attacks on Lemmy World is that the hackers seem to forget that other instances exist.
The funny thing about these DDos attacks on Lemmy World is that the hackers seem to forget that other instances exist.
If they're trying to attack all of Lemmy, or the whole Fediverse, they're doing it wrong. lol
It's like obvious spam emails that put no effort into appearing legitimate. You have the spirit of it, but your heart is in the wrong place.
Because of the unfortunate centralisation that's happened, with so many people being directed to lemmy.world or choosing to go there, a big DDoS attack on world would disrupt a lot of communities that people on other instances use. It's in everyone's interests to spread the load more, which is why I find it sad when some communities migrate to world. UnixPorn was one, although it was already on lemmy.ml which is a larger instance too
105I made a kbin before I made a lemmy account. So when one stops working, switch to the other. Although I do like the apps for lemmy much more (sync).
24Could also just make a Lemmy account on another instance?
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Yeah it would be really interesting if it was possible to have a merged community across several instances, like you sub to super community and it gets the information from one of the linked instances and when they're up they all keep synchronised.
If your instance went down you couldn't log on but if you could switch to another account on a different instance and access the same major communities - then when that instance comes back it catches up.
1@Meowoem @kd637_mi Better yet...
Many Lemmy instances have communities on the same topic. For example, there's @technology@lemmy.ml and @technology@beehaw.org and @technology@lemmy.world .
It's unnecessary duplication.
Having a Fediverse-wide !Technology community would avoid a lot of duplication.
Each Lemmy instance would then responsible for the posts of its users, and if an instance fails to moderate appropriately, it gets defederated.
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On the bright side, it makes people go to other instances instead of centralizing most the lemmy users on one big one
54Yep, living this one myself today!
13I think the bigger issue is many of the apps that are coming out (which imo would be the main point of entry for less techy users) point to lemmy.world as the default instance.
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The lemmy network spreads out and gets better the more it is attacked. Perfectly antifragile
40I'm pretty sure they only have beef with Lemmy.World for being banned from it.
37That or they're running an instance and want people to leave here and join theirs. Would make sense for someone who wants to manipulate content and people, crush the popular instance and you're more likely to inherit those users.
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Oh that's why it keeps going down?! Lol what a dumb waste of time and effort.
I'm happy on .world and don't mind finding something else to do when it's down.
37The hilarious part is they are probably paying to use some ddos service too.
9Yep. You need to make a lot of requests to make a site go down, especially for a longer time. And for that you need a lot of computers. I doubt a lot of people have some sleeping bot nets available that they can use whenever a site admin was mean to them. DDOS as a paid service is pretty established nowadays, so imagine some guy investing his valuable buttcoins for this shit.
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I see a lot of people sticking to one instance. I try to use different ones to mix it up. Yes it’s annoying losing your subscriptions but every instance has a different vibe and community which I like
34Using my own instance I guess if it's getting ddos'd I know someone's mad at me specifically lol
27Yeah I’m using a smaller instance but love the vibe on smaller ones. I’m glad I can experience the growth of the fediverse.
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There are scripts that let you import your subscriptions from other accounts.
18https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim in case people are wondering
9Hmm I wonder why a client like sync doesn't just create multiple accounts with the same name automatically and syncs (lol) the subscriptions. If one instance is down, switch to another instantly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2That makes a big difference for me knowing about that now. Thx :D
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Those spam emails are obvious on purpose, so that all their responses are from the most gullible idiots.
31Spam calls and interactive emails are, but phishing emails have nothing to lose from better design since they’re just collecting data. Some of them are actually pretty well done, to their credit.
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The power of decentralization.
28They don't have a script for that.
25I think it might be someone with a grudge.....
21It is, or at least partially... From what I understand a user(Lmao/Angled) was "sub-lemmy camping" (took up thousands of popular sub names and wasn't doing anything with them) so lemmy world banned him from that instance. He had a hissy fit and "vowed revenge" and has been attempting to do as much damage to .world as he/they could since. I can't find the original post but https://old.lemmy.world/post/943832 and https://old.lemmy.world/post/1720870 has a bit of detail.
Edit: added some info
41Wow what a complete loser. Reddit mod behavior
20If this is accurate it's particularly funny in light of the fact that every instance can have a community of a given name. It's not taken for every instance once one instance makes a community of a particular name, haha.
13Oh that's juicy. It's like arch nemesis type stuff
5Interesting drama
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From what I heard, the Lemmy.world ddoser got banned from the instance that's why they ddosing it
17Petty person doing petty things Just go forth and create communities across the instances SDF is pretty nice and has recently spun up a hand full of regional Lemmy instances
13"ah yes let me just publicly announce how they can hurt us more, that seems like a good idea"
10Can we consider this an open and obvious secret? They're DDoSing that instance not because they think it'll take everyone down, but because it'll take down the most number of people with the least amount of effort.
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fediverse goals
10Lemmy...world? Huh. I never saw an instance like that.
10I think the issue more ppl see with this is the communities there are now down also, not just not being able to login.
7No worries, they're just being considerate by "preemptively saving" all hexbears from the inconvenience of experiencing constant outage every day.
5Very considerate of them
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it's the muskrats. They're not too bright.
4At least LW is getting fucked. Wish it was one of ours doing it.
2Why aren't these things behind Cloudflare? Boggles the mind.
-2AFAIK enabling cloudfare's anti-DDoS breaks federation quite a bit.
Kbin.social had to enable it during reddit migration to stop the server from crashing due to all the traffic and it made it pointless trying to interact with other instances and fediplatforms.
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