Trump Says He’s Sending Troops To ‘War Ravaged’ America City — Authorizes ‘Full Force’
Trump Says He’s Sending Troops To ‘War Ravaged’ America City — Authorizes ‘Full Force’
He’s looking for a weaker target that he thinks he can manipulate. He didn’t succeed in LA or Chicago or even DC. But he won’t succeed in Oregon either because the governors have banded together to share information and protect their citizens as much as they can. And because the people he has on the ground are incompetent. And the competent people have been unwilling to break the law for him. Most of the military and national guard are very unhappy with this stuff.
Hello Americans, this is fascism!! It’s right here!!
Really? Lets vote and consume about it
The time is riot now
Needs to be a T-shirt
If you are a service member, you have a responsibility to refuse illegal and immoral orders. By participating in this administration’s un-American fascist projects, you position yourself as an enemy of the constitution, an enemy of the law, an enemy of the people. We did not accept “just following orders” as a defense the last time we put down a fascist uprising, and we wont accept it this time.
Not to detract from your point, but Nazi Germany and crew were a whole lot more than an uprising. Now to actually detract from your point, the Western Allies were super lax on Nazis during the Nuremberg trials to get the West Germans on their side against the Soviets. If I was a fascist looking at history to figure out whether I'd come out of post-facto trials unscathed, I'd feel pretty good about my chances.
Yet another distraction from the child rapist.
I'm pretty sure the Epstein files are the distraction from sending the military to conquer our own cities.
Doubtful. Donnie only cares about Donnie.
Clearly the only issue that matters. Is this literally all you think about?
I tell ya, this is all just a prelude to cancelling elections.
It does start to look like another step on the journey to the land of "you won't need to vote"
Weed out politic nay-sayers directly... we're already seeing some of that going on.
Then make being a member of the armed-forces ideologically untenable for those who aren't worshipping orange. Trump's actions must be impacting the national-pride aspect of serving for some (and changing the political disposition at the recruiting office).
If this is effective, in three years, maybe you'll have a military significantly dominated by active supporters (or at least fence-sitters)... Now that opens up some options.
Except you will actually lose a significant number of your military force to do that. Who is going to replace the ones who leave? The majority of MAGA die-hards aren't actually physically fit enough or able to stop using meth long enough to actually cut it in the military. To keep troop levels what they're at (which is definitely not enough to wrangle the whole nation) they'd have to drastically reduce physical fitness and drug abuse standards.
Germany took Europe with about 18 million soldiers throughout the entire war, and Europe had about 540 million citizens overall before World War 2. US has around just over 2 million soldiers (with only 10% in "boots on the ground" combat roles) with about 350 million citizens, all of which are far more spread out over the US than they were in Europe.
The ability for the US military to occupy and hold it's own nation is absurdly low, honestly, imho.
Evidence to support my assertion: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/09/28/new-pentagon-study-shows-77-of-young-americans-are-ineligible-military-service.html
Pentagon study from 2020: "A new study from the Pentagon shows that 77% of young Americans would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs or having mental and physical health problems."
Incidentally, Hegseth is requiring all US military generals to meet with him in person next week.
A retired general has directly compared it to when Hitler's fuckups forced the german generals and admiralty to re-swear their oath of service, in person, from the original oath to the country and new oath directly to Hitler.
make being a member of the armed-forces ideologically untenable for those who aren't worshipping orange
Hegseth was talking about using Kirk's murder for recruitment.
Why would they want to change anything about elections when they are already rigged as fuck and a binary option between 2 parties that circle in power every few years?
To me it looks like they are doing what every authoritarian government does when people start protesting
He is trying to incite a civil war. Russian psyops are working with him on this.
They won’t be cancelled, that would be unconstitutional.
Instead, ICE will be posted at polling places and intimidate people not to vote.
Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the constitution.
Yeah it's way more likely ICE will be used to occupy cities in general. For one, they don't have the same rigorous health standards that the military does, and for two, they just massively ballooned the budget of ICE for the specific purpose of recruitment. A lot easier to get dumb easily controlled thugs that way then trying to get the military deeply involved. The military being sent out is just Trump trying to pretend he's swinging his big dick around when it actually shows how weak he must be to be doing it.
Apparently during the American occupation of Haiti, the occupation government wanted to pass a new, wildly unpopular constitution via a referendum. To do this (and ostensibly to get around most of the population being illiterate) they implemented the following system: In the polling station there would be two cards, a white card and a black card, meaning yes and no respectively. The white cards were already on the table, but you had to ask for the black card. From the US marine standing guard to "keep order." The new constitution passed.
This is the obvious way to so it, no new power and you get to have elections you cam trick liberals into believing they're forced by philosophical principals to honor
Even if it isn't, responding as if it is won't be a terrible thing I do. Do what you can to resist this in your daily life.
Portland just recently broke the top 50 safest cities in the US. Just so you know what that assclown is targeting.
There are a huge number of country bumpkins that saw Portland on the TV during 2020 and assumed/were mislead into believing the whole city burned down and it's just a smoldering wasteland now. The actual problems were in a relatively small area downtown; most of Portland was unaffected.
I work with people in the software engineering field that have mentioned wanting to visit Portland but ask me if it's safe.
I can't even.
Plus, that was a long time ago. I drive by the Seattle "snowflakes beware" area a lot. It's just Seattleites doing their thing.
He's feeding on this storyline so he can get some "radical leftist antifa" to shoot a national guardsman, then he has the greenlight to start opening fire. It's a great storyline, top ratings, the biggest, everyone is talking about it. Grown men, tears in their eyes.
adding a source for this claim for the curious : https://wallethub.com/edu/safest-cities-in-america/41926
Another inch forward and we all stupidly pretend this means nothing.
I said this is the other thread, but what is the appropriate response? He's clearly setting the board, and he definitely wants to shoot protesters. He very likely wants sufficient violence to do something dramatic. They even may try to instigate, but have thus far been unable to get the desired response to enable martial law or whatever they plan.
So you have three options:
Which of these three do you propose?
See, there’s a fourth option: The people with the power need to take action and I don’t mean a “strongly worded letter.” I’m talking about the leaders with the knowledge and the levers to move this along.
If they don’t the inevitability is that No Kings becomes more than the nice picnic it currently is for citizens.
Me? I’m a citizen just like you. I have no power unless you and I become a team.
Update: I watched the full video of what he said and now I really do believe he's just genuinely that stupid and thinks he's actually trying to put down a riot. Fox News really plays him like a fiddle.
Portlanders are pretty sarcastic and many people have posted videos of "life in hell" (his audio) set against a beautiful Pacific Northwest summer with boats and farmer's markets.
I dunno, I'm inclined to think mockery in this case might be the best response for the time being. We'll see how next month's protest goes, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were entirely peaceful.
You left out the General Strike response
Just another distraction from the Epstein files.
/s
Claims to end wars and then goes to war against us.
We are an occupied nation.
Always have been.
This guy hates the constitution
Traitor lunatics really do seem to believe that decent people live in war zones and burned entire cities to the ground.
Clearly Trump hates traditional American values like the constitution, the separation of church and state, freedom of speech and habeas corpus. I guess he should be put on his own terrorism watch list
He should be put on a scaffold with a trap door beneath his feet and a noose around his traitorous neck.
After a juried trial of the entire administration
He needs to send troops to change his war ravaged poopy diaper
"Yes he is bad but he can't be as bad as Hitler"
Hitler didn't chicken out of service during a war.
War ravaged? Is this part of his delusions?
Yep. The fascist party propaganda machines (Fox, OAN, NewsMax) have been reporting that Seattle and Portland are literal war zones for years now. I live in Seattle, and when I travel to the South or the Midwest, I always get the "ohh I'm so sorry" concerned comments from people when they learn where I'm from. So many people think that the cities literally burned down entirely.
I'd see certain commenters repeating that last sentence as just something that was an assumed truth.
Every single time I saw them doing it, I'd ask the usual suspects to show me exactly which cities "burned to the ground". These same people would basically scamper off, providing no evidence, only to make the same claims again in a few hours/days.
Ask them why they believe mainstream media. Then watch them get an aneurysm.
Minneapolis as well. We drive up to northern Minnesota to see family every year and I usually stop for gas and lunch in Minneapolis. Our family up there thinks we're insane. They're like "you stop in MINNEAPOLIS?!? are you all ok?"
You should ask "who's telling you this?" The follow-up is "you should ask yourself 'why are they lying to me?'"
I see this online about Seattle all the time. (Plus hyperbole about the fent/homeless prob) People will be ranting about how awful Seattle is and how you can't go anywhere near it and I'm like "Really, I was there last month and had a lovely afternoon"
To be war ravaged, it must be at war. Trump is literally declaring war on the American people. And also encouraging the armed forces to kill civilians, unless you think "full force" could possibly mean anything else in a military context.
It's amazing how people can look at stuff like this and say "gee this guy sure does use some crazy hyperbolic language, I wonder what he can mean by that". It's pretty fucking clear.
Oh yeah, they think BLM burned cities to the ground and there's riots everyday and fentanyl heads on every block, broken up with the occasional roving trans kidnapping gangs.
What war?
"Don't worry, we brought it with us in our luggage."
Wonder when the US military is going to move to defend the US constitution ..
Never. Literally not gonna happen. Best you're going to get is some of them joining you when the civil war begins.
Somebody should do it.
What a complete and total waste of money. Your money.
So war against ourselves it seems.
America First? Wait .. America you better finally win one of these, I have no interest in my country being 2 through 100 and whatever ..
To get the Trump/Epstein files?
When can we start to enact economic sanctions against the US, any smaller state and there would have been repercussions for either the leadership or the country in general.
I think the better solution is to remove those agents from the state. I’d prefer it be from existence, but will settle for geographical relocation.
I'm a PATRIOT and I Voted for Trump because I Wanted to go to WAR With AMERICA!
Well those (urbans) really had it comin'!
I know it's a joke, but some of them think they're doing exactly that. The propaganda machine has them convinced that they're the real Americans and everybody left of them (which is basically everybody but other MAGA) are anti-American, Antifa, terrorist, communists.
The only "pushback" from the Mayor or Governor that I'll respect is if Police arrest National Guardsmen who break the law (it's inevitable they'll break the law). Otherwise, they're cowards at best and complicit at worse.
I still don't know if trump realizes how Hitler died.
Hopefully we are reaching a point where the military just says no.
Won't be "war ravaged" until his goons get there and the locals kick them back out
Sounds like he's already preparing to say the city was already ravaged before he sent the military in.
Bring it, fucker!
Has he been watching twisted metal and the last of us and he thinks they’re real?
Don’t take the bait, PDX!
That's what our mayor literally came out and said.
I hope Portland gives any illegally deployed military units in their city hell.
Aaaaand Americans just lying down and taking it.
Keep telling yourselves that yanks. How’s the resistance to Trump going?? Well?
Portland just recently broke the top 50 list of the safest cities in the US.
And of course it is a blue state and Portland is known to be extremely liberal.
Fuck you and fuck off fascists
adding a source to support this claim: https://wallethub.com/edu/safest-cities-in-america/41926
Portland ranked 9th in 2024
Portland OR is 118 on that list? I assume you're not talking about Portland ME.