'Can you imagine the disdain?' Ex-GOP insider says Pete Hegseth setting stage for a 'coup'
'Can you imagine the disdain?' Ex-GOP insider says Pete Hegseth setting stage for a 'coup'
I've been saying the same things about this meeting. To get to where they are, these Generals have had to navigate a complex labyrinth of regulations and rules, and if they violate ANY of them, even mildly, it will derail their entire careers. Those that make it to General have incredible, almost superhuman discipline. Also, by the time they become generals, they have had the equivalent education and training at a doctorate level in their field. They are NOT stupid.
And throughout their career, they have internalized ALL the propaganda about defending America from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, and nobody knows what a traitor looks like more than these people. They have also internalized American military history, and know that their names would be forever attached to the fall of America, as the Generals who stood by and allowed it, instead of defending it. After a lifetime of carefully stepping through the career land mines to reach the top, they can't be pleased that their efforts and sacrifices will be squandered to advance the fall of the Republic.
And now the MAGA High Command, in all their stupidity, are gathering all these Generals in one place, where they will be able to talk freely amongst themselves. Until now, they know that literally every single communication they have with each other is heavily monitored by numerous agencies. For the first time, they will be able to speak candidly with each other, and see where each other stands.
It could be that MAGA wants them to talk, knowing some will get ratted out, and they can eject some potential troublemakers. They think that makes them stronger, but they are far too stupid to realize that every competent, experienced, patriotic General that they eject, becomes a competent experience, MOTIVATED military leader for the Rebellion.
This meeting could be very bad for America, or very good. It may be the moment that the real rebellion is born.
I won't hold my breath. They aren't some sort of incorruptible super soldiers. They are human et they fall prey to corruption like any other human.
Chances are this will be bad for the US and, by proxy, the rest of the world.
What gave it away? Did 25 year long quest to invalidate elections they don't win? The denial they did lose an election? Or was it the false accusations projecting what they are doing onto the opposition? Or was it the literal coup attempt where they tried to take Congress hostage and force it to sign over the republic?
The author must be a sharp one!
Pete Hegseth is a traitor to this country
And so is EVERY MAGA that follows them..
Every damn Republican is.
He is a part of an entire group of traitors to this country.
Here's the one conspiracy theory that always sticks with me because it explains everything. Putin's number one goal for decades has been to destabilize the United States. That's why Russian troll farms have posted things supporting both sides of decisive issues for ages. He doesn't care about the issue, just that Americans fight over them. Trump has been mixed up with the Russian Mafia since his real estate days, and Putin has a lot of dirt on him. Since becoming president, Trump has appointed people most likely to disrupt or destroy the organizations they're in charge of. The person who wants to get rid of the department of education gets put in charge of it. The person who doesn't believe in science and who believes junk conspiracy theories, gets appointed health and human services. Many more examples. The goal is to make the government fall apart.
So in that context, Hegseth doing this works either way. If he gets the military brass to fall in line and go against the Constitution, Putin wins. If he tries and the military brass goes against the commander in chief, Putin still wins. The goal is destabilizing the country and taking down the government.
It's not just speculation, it is literally in writing, in Alexandr Dugin's book The Foundations of Geopolitics. It is the Russian Playbook, taught at the Russian Military Academy, and is kept in Putin's office.
Published in 1997, it outlines how Russia can take control of the world, by conquering each region without using the military. For America, it suggests:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
"Instability and separatism." It sounds exactly like what's been going on in America over the last 30 years. My question is: Who are these "special services" that already existed in America? We know that about 10-15 years ago, we rounded up a circle of Russian spies, living as normal American citizens, in sleeper cells around the country. Is that who they meant? Or perhaps they include Donald Trump, who we know was given the code name Krasnov on his first visit to Moscow in 1987. Or is it all the blackmailable elected officials who have been taking Russian campaign money laundered through the NRA for decades?
BTW, here's what the book had to say about Great Britain:
The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from the European Union.
And of course we had Brexit, which we now know was heavily influenced by Russian propaganda, and accomplished exactly what the Russians wanted.
And then Ukraine:
Ukraine (except Western Ukraine) should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible according to Western political standards. As mentioned, Western Ukraine (comprising the regions of Volynia, Galicia, and Transcarpathia), considering its Catholic-majority population, are permitted to form an independent federation of Western Ukraine but should not be under Atlanticist control.
I have actually heard Putin himself make statements that nearly quoted this phrase:
Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness,
Almost word for word. Putin is clearly following this book. Further, the author, Dugin, is still extremely active in the highest reaches of the intelligence structure. His daughter was also an influential member of Russian intelligence, until she was killed by a car bomb that was thought to be intended for her father.
Despite the MAGAs trying to intimidate anyone from approaching the Russian connection to MAGA, we all know the truth. MAGA is nothing more than a Russian intelligence operation, using an intelligence asset that they groomed for decades. He is an authentic Manchurian Candidate, operating in full view, and with the full knowledge of the entire world.
We can all see it, it is time to end it.
It's absurd how wildly successful Putin has been.
Gonna have to hit up my local library to see if I can find this book.
Little late now, the fix is now in. And those same forces will be helping to keep the beatable dems at the helm of opposition.
That's all believable because it actually doesn't sound crazy. Wish that Russia would fuck off and leave people alone.
At this point any other leader would be better, but I won't hold my breath for something positive to happen in American politics.
I'm pretty sure this was the reason trump was puppeted to become president. Eventually his puppet masters were going to toss him out like all the other people they used.
Nothing is going to fix America... What's happening is bigger than America, it's a quest for world conquest and it's spreading.
Nothing's happening by mistake anymore. Americans are played, used and manipulated whether it's street people, or businessmen and politicians.
I never cease to be astonished by Trump's... let's call it "insatiable" stupidity. No amount of stupidity is enough for this guy. He's always aiming for more.
What's his goal in becoming a dictator in the first place when he's so old, sick, and basically on death's doorstep?
What's the brainrot version of the "dictatorship of the proletariat"?
Bingo.
At this point any other leader would be better
Yo, stop with the monkey paw shit. Check out what happened to Alberta, Canada when they ousted their rightwing nutjob premiere, and he was replaced with a righter wing nuttier nutjob.
It can get worse.
Yep, I mean a lot of us thought that the GOP was screwed for a generation after the bungling W. Bush did to the economy and the 9/11 response. Well we all know where that went.
I mean, you're not wrong but the way she got into office initially wasn't exactly a shining beacon of democratic process....
Although, in fairness, the province did reelect her after so perhaps they did want an even crazier flavour of nuts after all.
A wise therapist once told me "never challenge worse".
Also, things will get worse before they get better worse.
I don't know... Imagine Stephen Miller in charge.
Not sure we even need to do that
The only thing I expect of American politics now .... is that they figure out even more stupid reasons to make things worse.
Isn't he much more likely to be working up to a major strike on Venezuela? They seem to be wanting a bigger distraction and military industrial complex money maker.
They will probably attack Venezuela, but that's not a reason to call all the generals from around the world back to the US. There is almost NEVER any reason to pull them all back. In fact, you're leaving yourself extremely vulnerable if you do.
How many wars has the US fought in? Many of them have been bigger than an attack on Venezuela would be. Pulling all the generals into one room has NEVER been done. Not once, even for World War 2.
This is not about starting a single conflict. This probably isn't even about starting a world conflict. This is about something else entirely.
might just be a power move. Do this once or twice, just to demonstrate obedience.
Wars do not distract Americans. They are numb to wars. They are numb to US imperialism and war crimes. Gaza has proven that.
Right. I did not mean to imply that they were at all good at achieving anything.
Por que no los dos?
Why would this be for a "potential coup" and not - telling the generals they're going to be attacking several "Democrat cities" using real military grade violence, and may receive live fire from disgruntled citizens.
...that seems like a far more likely reason for the meetings. Far far more likely.
That's been my theory too, invasion and occupation of all blue states. Maybe rounding up and imprisoning/killing every registered democrat and anyone else that looks woke/undesirable. I hope I'm wrong and it's just some ego stroking exercise.
If the meeting had already happened before Trump directed them to do so, then it would make sense as a pulse check to see if there would be any dissent. But the meeting hasn't happened yet.
There is of course the possibility that it was supposed to be about that and someone mentioned it to Trump and he couldn't hold it and jumped the gun without knowing why it was so important that the meeting happened first... that is unfortunately, plausible...
Coup against Trump? That makes no sense. Theyll get a coup if they try to force loyalty to Trump over the constitution.
Wait are we talking a Military Coup in response to the awful treatment of the armed forces by Trump/Hegseth/ etc?
That would explain the huge budget increase to immigration and border control.
But oddly enough, in 1934, the German military voluntarily took an oath to Hitler (fucking wild, I always thought he made them swear the oath, but that's not true according to Stalinism and Nazism: dictatorships in comparison.
Trump is trying to build up a larger, poorer trained, less equipped, dumber SS like paramilitary Incase the military does turn on him. But that might not be disadvantagous by the end of this year, and even more so since the battlefield would almost entirely in the contiguous US, meaning the Navy can only really provide support to the coasts.
If you include all reserves and national guard the Army is about 1m strong. Air force is ~500k, Navy is 400k, Marines are 200k strong, and Coast guard is ~60-70k. I'm not going to bother with Space Force.
The feds (DHS) currently have 204k employees (I'm guessing it's larger than last reported) and a lot more money than they used to. And a large part of those aren't a
Personally I don't understand the probability of the Military turning on Trump. Trump/Hegseth/Heritage Foundation would certainly get the war they wanted if that happened, but that will fuck up our country beyond recognition. There is a small chance that the US military would relinquish power, but it wouldn require the leaders to have heads like George Washington.
Though the collapse is probably what Putin was interested in. The billionaires have been preparing for it with their bunkers. I don't like this prospect of all the prospects so far. (But it would hopefully be better than the 258m lives HF is after).
damn, i never thought i'd see the day
I'm not going to bother with Space Force
Ha!
Load up on guns, bring your friends
It’s fun to lose and to pretend.
Look I'm as paranoid as the next guy about these honorable gentlemen trying something really stupid, buuuuuut they also do have absolutely massive egos to appease.
Never discredit a solid need on their behalf to occasionally put a pair of pants on, and once again, finally, absolutely, without a doubt, fully prove their manhood.
Who wants popcorn?
If Pete manages to overthrow the orange man, I’ll suck his dick wearing a dress
This is for imposing loyalty pledges. I guarantee it.