Trump faces a make-or-break moment in the election interference case
https:// www.npr.org /2024/01/09/1222887973/trump-immunity-from-prosecution Trump faces a make-or-break moment in the election interference case
Lawyers for the former president will make a sweeping argument that he enjoys blanket immunity from federal prosecution for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
So if actions taken as president can't be illegal, what's to stop Biden arresting every Republican and canceling the election?
43Nothing except human decency.
Yeah, I know, "in a politician?". Exactly. These dumb motherfuckers don't think ahead by even a single move.
22This has been the problem though, there's no depths Republicans aren't willing to sink to, while Democrats still keep trying to mostly stick to the rules. The Republicans know that the Democrats aren't willing to play as dirty as they are, so they keep resorting to increasingly immoral if not outright illegal tactics. Eventually Democrats inch a little closer to the line and then Republicans resort to something even worse and our democracy gets a little more tattered.
This process has been going on for a while but it's been pretty slow moving until Trump got in when things accelerated massively. Republicans before Trump at least attempted to maintain a thin veneer of legitimacy, while Trump just decided to go full mask off villain and to start saying all the quiet parts out loud.
If there's a silver lining to this it's that Trump may have overplayed his hand. The GOP had been carefully laying the groundwork for a quiet coupe for decades and had nearly sewn things up with the takeover of the Supreme Court when Trump came busting through the wall like a big orange Koolaid man and attempted a very ham fisted coupe upending a lot of the GOPs plans.
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Presumably his senators would actually convict on an impeachment if their president did that?
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"No, this was totally illegal but I think I should get away with it, anyway."
Bold strategy.
34"Greatest legal mind I ever knew."
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Great, if everything the president does is considered an official action, and immune from later prosecution then I propose that Joe Biden revokes Donald Trumps citizenship, and deports him from the country immediately.
26This is the best summary I could come up with:
Former President Donald Trump is expected to make a rare Tuesday appearance in a courtroom in Washington, D.C., for a make-or-break moment in his federal election interference case.
Prosecutors say that this culminated in violence at the U.S. Capitol three years ago that injured 140 law enforcement officers and shook the foundations of American democracy.
They also argue that because Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives, but not convicted by the U.S. Senate, for his behavior around the Capitol riot, to prosecute him now would violate the principle against double jeopardy.
"I wasn't campaigning, the Election was long over," Trump wrote in a social media post this week, announcing his intention to appear at the courthouse in the District of Columbia for the first time since his arraignment last August.
No evidence has emerged of fraud in the 2020 presidential election that would have changed the outcome of the race, as independent experts and many of Trump's own Cabinet officials publicly concluded.
The special counsel team says such reasoning would give presidents license to commit crimes while in the White House, such as accepting bribes for directing government contracts or selling nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary.
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42020 - S05E09 - I'm Rubber, And You're Glue
Former President Donald Trump made a rare Tuesday appearance in a courtroom in Washington, D.C., for a make-or-break moment in his federal election interference case. In arguments that extended for more than an hour, three judges for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit pressed Trump's attorney on his sweeping claims of immunity from federal prosecution. Trump attorneys John Lauro and Todd Blanche have asserted that those charges are based on official actions Trump took while he was president — and that Trump was simply raising questions about the integrity of the election. They also argue that because Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives, but not convicted by the U.S. Senate, for his behavior around the Capitol riot, to prosecute him now would violate the principle against double jeopardy. James Pearce, representing the Special Counsel, argued Tuesday that "the president has a unique constitutional role, but he is not above the law." He added that a former president enjoys no immunity from criminal prosecution. To conclude otherwise, he said, would give rise to a "frightening" future. No former president has ever been charged with a crime. Trump is the first. So an eventual ruling will be a landmark no matter which way the court rules. If the court sides with Trump, the federal case in Washington would be all but over. - TV-MA, 63 mins
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