Posting this here because I'm unsure of where else to post something like this.
Over two years ago at this point I mutually ended a nearly year long relationship with someone I was still in love with. We were graduating high school and while still going to colleges in the same city, realized we were in over our heads and were in an unhealthy situation so we split it off. It destroyed me. It took me a year to get my shit together (I went on a minor drug-binge for about 3 months after and spent probably $6k from eating out and making sure I always had enough bud) but I eventually met my current partner. Things aren't perfect in our relationship but I genuinely love her and we work to further strengthen our relationship. I don't know that I see the rest of my life with her, but we've been together over a year now and I don't have any intention of ending things anytime soon. We also live together so making it work is more of a necessity lol.
But I can't get my ex out of my head. I've spent nearly every day for the last two years trying to let go of her but I don't know why she keeps popping into my thoughts. I don't love her, I don't want to be with her, I don't want her in my life. And ahe isn't, but I'm still dealing with this. I do have a therapist who I've talked at length with about this but I don't know, something about her just is stuck in my head. Maybe I preferred sex with her? I doubt it but she did kinda define what I consider my "type", so maybe it's just she's more unromantically attractive to me? But it feels so much deeper than that. If it were those shallows reasons I feel like it would've been easier to debug and diagnose. She was my best friend. One day she was in my life, the next day not. It feels like a very specifically sized puzzle piece is missing and now there's a small hole in the puzzle.
I don't know, it's kinda maddening. I don't have most social media, so it's easier to avoid her online and not think about her. But occasionally I find myself borderline stalking her, except it's just me gathering random information I already know from OSINT tools with no intention or idea on how to utilize it (I'm well aware of how to use OSINT data, I mean in this specific situation). Part of it just feels like someone really important to me was rapidly removed from my life and I yearn to reconnect with them, but I guess I fear what such an endeavor might reawaken in me. I don't love her, at least I don't think I do. If I do it would be monumentally fucked up and I would feel like I'm emotionally cheating on my partner, who is somewhat aware of this issue but thinks I have it figured out (I thought I did too; I'm not knowingly lying to my partner). I don't know, I sent them a proper goodbye email a few months ago and thought that was that but it's clearly not. And I've put so much time and effort into trying to wrap it up for myself but now it feels like I'm just lost and stuck. Part of me just wants to reach out and ask if we can get a cup of coffee, but the other part of me recognizes the red flags in that immediately.
I just want to be done with this. I want my brain to get it through itself thar it's over. It's been over. There's no changing the past, and if I could, I don't think I would've reached the point where I am in life with my current opportunities if we had stayed together. Part of why we broke up was because as I was learning how to sell pot (which I was never very good at), I became a massive stoner (which I am very good at). She wasn't anti-weed but didn't appreciate it. When eventually saw that us growing apart was hurting each other and decided to leave things behind. Being young and dumb, I didn't handle the breakup well. I didn't do anything bad or harmful to her or anyone else, but it was obvious to both of us that I wasn't okay afterwards. When I feel like I needed her the most, she was gone from my life. In doing so she broke our promise of prioritizing our friendship over the relationship. I don't really know. I understand a lot of the reasons why I'm hurt and some are justified some are not. I understand the role I played and the responsibility I had in hoe things ended. I was not a great partner in a lot of instances, and neither was she. But part of me wonders if we had met now what it would be like. But I wouldn't have been who I am now without her and without being without her. I'm just so fucking unsure man.
I'm sorry if this is really rambly. I expect that the majority of answers will probably be to just get over it already, which I'm trying to do. I just don't feel like it's the right thing to ask to see her again, because that feels like an eventual mistake rather than closure. Idk, tell me I'm an idiot or an asshole to my current partner or something. I just want to be done with dealing with the legacy of a long-dead relationship.
TL;DR: Mutually ended a significant relationship when I wasn't ready. Been kinda fucked since. Want to not be fucked so I can be a better partner. I suck for this.
Edit: Thank you to everyone who has commented thus far. A lot of the discussion has been really helpful and I've got some new leads on how to debug this issue. I'm trying to respond to everyone and I can't express how appreciative I am.
It sounds less like you're missing your ex, and more like that you're disappointed in the fact that the relationship failed. It sounds like you built up an expectation of your relationship with your ex, and when that ended up falling through, you feel let down. And it sounds like you can't decide whether to put the blame on her or yourself.
If I'm reading that correctly, I think the best thing to do is to acknowledge this fact, that the issue is not that you're missing the relationship, but that you're struggling with the emotional letdown when your relationship ended up being less ideal than you initially planned. Because if you keep thinking that the issue is that you're missing her subconsciously, you're going to get led to the wrong solutions. For instance, putting blame on you or her isn't going to solve the actual issue.
If we take this premise to be true, then I think addressing the real issue probably comes down to thinking about what your expectations were and thinking about how the relationship was never going to meet those expectations from the beginning (based on the examples that you gave). Ultimately, I don't know your situation, and I'm not a therapist. But that's my interpretation of what you wrote
There are times in life when we don't get closure and never will. Coming to peace with this can be challenging. Do what you can to enjoy time with the ones you love. Time makes it easier but there's no guarantee for closure, ever. Enjoy life the best you can. Keep going.
But occasionally I find myself borderline stalking her
Don't do this you creep. Talk to her like a normal person or a friend (note - after you address the other points in this comment). I still talk with some of my exes, it's chill. You'll probably notice she's changed and you don't like her as much too.
There’s no changing the past, and if I could, I don’t think I would’ve reached the point where I am in life with my current opportunities if we had stayed together.
Good on you for staying strong with that. It's why you broke up originally and you fulfilled that. Good job.
I became a massive stoner
Don't do this. Despite so many people echoing the "pot isn't bad for you narrative", countless studies have directly showed it contributes to demotivation, and there's plenty of correlations to things like increased anxiety and other mental illnesses
In doing so she broke our promise of prioritizing our friendship over the relationship.
Half this post suggests you're a weirdo dude. First stop being weird. Then you can be friends.
I understand a lot of the reasons why I’m hurt and some are justified some are not.
You're gonna learn that just because you're hurt, doesn't mean it can easily be made right. What could she possibly do to unhurt you? Apologize and come back into your life? No, she's not gonna do that. Especially after everything you wrote before this. Focus on things you can improve and write off your losses (i.e being hurt) instead of letting them drag you down.
tell me I’m an idiot or an asshole to my current partner or something.
You will never have it all. People in stable relationships develop a crushes on other people, they miss your exes, and they see easy opportunities to jump ship onto someone else for a whole host of benefits (experiences, sex, money, whatever). Some people do, some people don't. But you will always leave something on the table.
If you're an asshole to your current partner, you're going to know that by the fact you're not treating your current partner well. But it really sounds like a case of you need to fix yourself before worrying about others.
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Apologies if my comment came off as a little brutal, but I want to be clear and not simply comfort you on it. Fix yourself.
I wrote down about my bad feelings. I wrote a letter I pretended to send them - it helped a lot.
I created a tool I used to see where on my way on healing I was. I used a clicker to measure amounts of thought I had about them and made a chart out of it (It was awesome to see how the thoughts dwindle to nothing with time)!
You can also talk about it with friends, family and strangers.
If this was a highschool relationship my advice would be to just wait. I was devastated when I broke up with my highschool sweetheart but every year it became less important.
Breaking up is something you learn to do just like anything else. In my case I found out the person I grew into isn't someone the person I was seeing would have loved and the person I am now isn't someone who would love the person I used to date. Now all the emotions I had and all the things that I thought were important seem trivial
Hope this helps, and don't stalk it makes you weird and everything you're experiencing worse.
You keep thinking about them, because you have yet to find someone, who can satisfy the feelings you used to experience. Completely distancing yourself first is a correct step. You know what to do, you just need to do it. Meeting new people, let alone at a level of connection like this, is quite difficult, so try to fill your time with hobbies. The more involved, the better
I don't think this is something that unusual (or at least I hope so lol). This is someone that played a significant role in your life, that from one day til the next is suddenly not there anymore. For me this felt a bit like a part of my everyday life just died. Although I'm not sure how much you can compare this to the grief from death I feel like there are some similarities.
As others have already said, it does get easier with time, where at some point you will probably notice that you haven't thought about her for some days and then from there on the times where you think about her get further and further apart.
I know that for me I also had some underlying issues that really exacerbated the situation in a bad way. Therapy helped here so much. Not trying to say that you necessarily need therapy, but if you think that you may also have some underlying issues I really think that this will help immensely.
Hope you can work through this and can get happier with your current situation and partner.
I've been in your shoes. I nearly married my ex that cheated on me. You know what happened? Like you I tried to move on and ended up meeting my wife while my ex was trying to reconcile. She admitted that she screwed up and that we should start over. I ended up snubbing her in favor of giving my now-wife a shot. Almost 16 years later and it was the best decision I ever made relationship-wise. My mistake was thinking my ex was the only one for me.
It's okay to not have the answers. It's okay to take time to figure this out for you. But you need to understand that if your ex hurt you when you really needed them, that's not the person that is going to be by your side at all times - they failed that check already. Life is short and fleeting - don't waste your good years hoping something will manifest itself through all of the past drama. You're fantastic and someone is DEFINITELY out there that will appreciate you for exactly who you are.
There's lots of fish in the sea, and potentially there might be several people out there that might be the one - give this one a chance!
Some really good advice here and people really tried, wow, just really surprised that not all people on Lemmy are tech geeks... cuz, I have to say that I do have a hard time interpreting situations and emotions and knowing that I can write about my problems and have a bunch of people really get into the issue and give really good advice, that really really means a lot 😊.
Finding closure of some kind I think. Keeping in mind why you broke up, why it didn't work out, why there wasn't a future in the relationship, etc.
The relationship before my current partner of over ten years was really intense, I thought she was really the one, she was what I had imagined my ideal type was for practically my whole adolescence. But a spot of long distance and her parents disapproval had us in a bit of on again off again, where during one drunk call to me, she admitted to kissing other guys (at the very least), and that was enough for me to just go, "oh, I think our expectations are too different", and I was able to put a hard end to that. Yeah, I occasionally think of her, but more in the curious way you wonder about an old acquaintance.
I had a friend with a sort of similar situation to yours, he and his girlfriend mutually broke up when we were all graduating high school because her friends convinced her that long distance wouldn't work out. It really messed both of them up, especially since they kind of stayed in contact. A lot of weird stories there, but not really mine to tell. But he talked a few times about all the "what-ifs" and it feels like that's the hardest part in letting go of a relationship.
On the other hand, if you can convince yourself that the answer to "what if?" is basically "nothing good", I think that can help. Though, easier said than done, it's kinda like brainwashing yourself by focusing on all the negatives about them. Easy for me because of the cheating, but not so easy for my friend.
I have been there so close to this situation.
It is almost like “how am I supposed to meet someone else?”
Everything is numb and nothing really takes it away. But it does with time. And TIME TAKES TIME.
Just try today to appreciate a few things about your new partner that make them special. Like maybe their smile, or laugh, or just the fact they are with you.
Love the one you’re with.
Someone told me when I broke up at first that ”They are not there anymore” - meaning that the relationship is not there for me anymore. It’s true.
Be grateful this happened so early in your life and you have so much great life ahead!!
Considering you're like probably 19 or something, basically don't fucking worry about it because You're young as absolute fuck. I thought i was gonna marry all my high school and college girlfriends. I'm SO glad I didn't because if I had. I'd be absolutely fucking miserable. Just give it time. You'll probably be in another relationship w8thin 6 months. Just get bacj out there. Seriously. You're young as shit. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
Your feelings/instincts do not care about your rational thoughts. The thoughts are something that's tacked on afterwards. Most of the time we simply use the thoughts to explain our emotions, instead of using the thoughts as an initial source of what to do. The fact that we use thoughts to override our emotions is a relatively new thing.
Also, we as a species have very strong mate preference as soon as we have sex with someone. Our face memory is extremely good. This is obviously to ensure that whatever offspring you create has better survival chances since their parents stay together. Nature doesn't know about contraception. Whatever triggered your pair-bond instinct assumes you might have babies right now. You as a male don't go through pregnancy, so you have no "trigger" that tells your biological processes "we have a baby now" - it's safe to assume since you had lots of sex, there's likely a baby there now.
Also, the first love is always the strongest emotionally. I'm 33 now and still think about the girl I was in love with as a teenager sometimes. That's not a rare occurrence.
I would like to ask you three things:
What did your therapist say to this?
Look deep inside you... are you lonely right now?
And last, why do you say that you don't know if you see the rest of your life with your current partner?
18-19 are one of the most vulnerable years for a person, and I feel like relationships at that age make an incredibly lasting impression, and the feelings themselves are so unique and strong in a different way. It took me years to get over my boyfriend I was with at that time and even now he holds a very dear and special place in my heart.
Love is a strange thing and I am still not sure about how it works in the time dimension, but I have noticed that if I loved, those feelings were mine and will always stay with me, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Also, present guilt can be more powerful than past love. I have the impression that that is what is in tormenting you. Stop being so hard on yourself for having human feelings, you deserve acceptance from yourself.
I don’t love her, I don’t want to be with her, I don’t want her in my life.
are you sure about that? there must be something about her that pervades your mind and compells you to (want to) invite her for coffee, not to mention the stalking. i know this comes off as inflammatory, but i think it's important to consider the possibility that you are in denial; after all, you absolutely have a vested interest in those 3 statements being true