Dems. plan to force vote on federal IVF bill & test Republicans who claim they support protections
Dems. plan to force vote on federal IVF bill & test Republicans who claim they support protections
Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) is leading the charge after using IVF to concieve her two children.
GOP will claim to be 'pro life' and then vote to allow IVF. Then they'll say that they hate the bill.
52sigh
18You don't... You don't think they were... Lying, do you?
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They can force a vote on IVF all of the sudden but not anything else?
6I guess this will go like the recent vote where R shot down their own border policy proposal.
6Duckworth is trying to pass the proposal through unanimous consent, meaning even one senator’s objection would cause the bill not to pass.
so it is in her estimation, knowingly useless and performative.
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) said that, while he has not yet looked specifically at Duckworth’s bill, “it’s idiotic for us to take the bait” in regards to Democrats using the bill to force Republicans to publicly declare whether or not they support IVF.
and the republicans know it too.
so what exactly is the point?
in my opinion, it is the standard democrat cynicism. it is simply something that in the future can be used as a bullet point for her future candidacy. without context, one could write 'honestly' she "fought" for IVF.
and how many will link her 'fight' uncritically in the future? i bet more than a few.
-6Back in the before times, bills would come to a vote and bills that had virtually total support would go thru with unanimous consent. Now, bills are blocked from being voted on so that Senators aren't on the record being shitbags. As you quoted Vance saying, "“it’s idiotic for us to take the bait” in regards to Democrats using the bill to force Republicans to publicly declare whether or not they support IVF."
Think about that statement from a Senator, then marvel at how fundamentally different he sees the job of a Senator from say, you or me or regular humans.
Duckworth is putting a face to whoever opposes a wildly popular issue, IVF treatment. It causes people to think about the issue, because legislators are in fact advocators (you know, in complete contrast to Vance trying to hide what he advocates for). There's nothing performative about it.
in my opinion, it is the standard democrat cynicism. it is simply something that in the future can be used as a bullet point for her future candidacy. without context, one could write ‘honestly’ she “fought” for IVF.
For Duckworth and for many people, IVF is a opportunity that is basically magic. It changes their lives and it gives them the opportunity to have children. There are few things more powerful than that, and it's tone deaf to an extreme degree to think that something is performative just because it isn't targeted at you.
I mean, usually I'd say you're being a petulant childish asshole, but I'm trying to be better too.
It's ok if everything isn't important to you, champ. It can be important to others and we can support that. There will be Republican supporters of IVF that wanna know too.
11What else can the Senate minority do Mr joad? Do you feel it would be better if the Senate minority just crossed their arms and wait it out?
1It is standard practice for someone lacking information on a given topic to derisively ask those they disagree with to become masters of said topic, then nit-picking anything that person might come up with.
This is a boring pattern. Let us change it.
Do you feel it would be better if the Senate minority just crossed their arms and wait it out?
This is actually the point i was making. What they are doing amounts to crossing their arms in my estimation.
Performative grandstanding, tough guy tweeting and fundraising. Uselessness is their MO imo.
As for what i want from them? To do what i asked them to, successfully represent me. I don't care how it's done. Does that sound unfair? It shouldn't, it should sound familiar. It sounds like what you and i are expected to do at our jobs every day. Our excuses do not save us from getting axed. We are not allowed to place blame on our co-workers. We get it done, or we're gone.
Just like any other job they're subject to a performance review. In this case my review holds little weight, but i don't need you going to bat for them, i need you to take them to task. I need you to stop accepting their excuses.
Until enough people do, why should their performance increase? What evidence have you picked up during your lifetime that compels you to take them at their word, that they'll do better next quarter "as long as you hire some of their friends to help them do the job" they are currently, and for a long time have utterly failed to do?
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Holy shit Democrats yet again proving how dumb they are. Giving the clowns the stage turns it in to a clown show.... Every. Time. Stop allowing the clowns to control the stage.
-55Can you elaborate on how this proves they are dumb?
35By perpetually treating Republicans like they are engaging in good faith, Democrats allow them to pull the Overton Window to the right. Again and again, and after decades of it, fascists are now being treated as if they weren't direct enemies of Americans less than 100 years ago.
Peoples' grandparents fought to keep these ideologies out of the world, and now Democrats are going, "wait wait, let them cook!"
Fucking insanity.
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