The Government Isn’t Ready for the Violence Trump Might Unleash
The Government Isn’t Ready for the Violence Trump Might Unleash
The Biden administration should be preparing for the worst.
No one is. Not the American public, not anyone on the planet. Not even Trump (since he makes shit up as he goes). There is no plan. It'll just be mass insanity, driven by an insane egomaniac.
47This is being discussed as though it's normal. It's not.
28I'm just sitting here thinking how everyone acknowledges the necessity of a third choice, and in their next breath decry anyone who even mentions they might not be willing to hold their noses this time and vote for the two establishment parties.
It's so obvious that articles like this want us to continue as we always have, never even mentioning that there is another way. One could surmise it's the media's own subconcious bias, but i think I'm more cases the media really prefers we think of elections this way. The past 20 years of massive media conglomeration allowed by both parties shows they stand to benefit regardless of who wins, as long as it's one of the two. So that's all they ever mention. I'm a time where it's never been more clear we needto move away from the two parties dragging us to the right.
I can hear the replies now, and sure; it's true that if you vote for a different party it won't win them the presidency. It's a pie in the sky ideal no one sane thinks could happen.
But how complicit is the media in this truth? How much of the supposedly free democracy is lost by the media's deliberate omission of other options? We know the power of media to elevate politicians up to public consciousness. We all watched media make Trump the nominee in 2016.
The establishment parties know the power of media and use it constantly to advertise. This article is no different. It is a farce. After keeping Trump in the public eye constantly, the media, crowning their own presidential candidate, then demands we not vote for him, but for their choice. All while keeping mum on the fact either choice won't hurt them much. All silent on the fact there are other candidates on the ballot. In a time of more core dissatisfaction than ever. Regardless of our politics, it's obvious what theirs are and they receive concrete benefits by artificially narrowing our free system down to two bad options for us, and only wins for them.
How many of us know by heart the old adage "voting third party is throwing your vote away"? Where did we learn this? How can we hold that true while also believing our democracy is free and true?
18Ranked choice voting is the solution. So long as we use first past the post voting, voting for a third party candidate is a waste.
This can be changed by being active and supporting progressive candidates on the state and local levels.
47This is the answer. Don't vote for third party candidates, by that point it's too late.
Vote for candidates in the primaries that are adamant about voting reform/ranked choice voting. Normalize it at state and local levels. Then, it will become a viable option at the national level.
This can happen quickly with the right advocacy and the right candidates, but good candidates are indeed hard to come by.
30Speaking of state and local, that is where change is going to happen with ranked choice voting. State and local governments can move much faster than the federal government to institute ranked choice voting. Because states have a high degree of autonomy on holding their own elections, they can prove that ranked choice is a viable option for local, state, and maybe even federal offices.
13I love ranked choice too! But that's going to be a long long fight. I'm just talking about the system we have now, and the media's obvious interests in keeping their party candidates foremost in voter's minds
4No, ranked choice has serious issues and won't likely fix the issue. I'd prefer to avoid citing specific alternatives because they all come with their own biases and trade-offs. One example of surprising results is the Burlington, VT mayoral election, which is contentious because the winner was neither the plurality or majority winner.
That said, I think it's a case of "don't let perfect be the enemy of better." If RCV is on the ballot, I'll vote for it. But I'd very much prefer one of the other many alternatives because I think it doesn't resolve the spoiler effect satisfactorily and can have very surprising results.
I highly recommend looking into the various alternatives and reading up on condorcet winners before jumping on the RCV bandwagon.
Regardless I think an even better solution is to focus on fixing gerrymandering. I think we should consider proportional representation in the House, which should get more third parties elected and give us a real shot at breaking the two party system there. I think we'll always have one of the two major parties in the White House just based on voter demographics, but changing at least on house of Congress should force the President to actually work across party lines instead of waiting until their party gets a majority. Having Democrats and Republicans need to cater to the greens, libertarians, etc would be awesome.
3Which acceptable "progressive" candidates are actively advocating for your holy grail of ranked-choice voting, and are you sure that voting for them isn't "a waste?" that will make trump win?
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I said it once say again IF WE ALL VOTED THRID PARTY THEN THEY WOULD WIN! Unfortunately we can't get all the poor and working class on the same page to accomplish that. So we need rank choice voting it's the only way. Also remove the electoral college while we are at it.
14“voting third party is throwing your vote away”? Where did we learn this?
It comes from an understanding of reality in a first past the post voting system. If you want a third option, focus on ranked choice voting and minimizing corporate control of media rather than promoting a losing strategy.
8How many of us know by heart the old adage "voting third party is throwing your vote away"? Where did we learn this?
Through a basic understanding of the First Past the Post election mechanism. Voting third party does not help move the establishment parties left, it only hurts the left. The best thing for the left to do is turn up every single election (especially local elections) to vote D down the whole ticket en masse, until the Republican party is defunct. Additionally, voting for progressives in the primary.
The only way out of "voting third party is throwing your vote away" is to move away from FPTP. That means showing up and holding your nose until we elect enough candidates who support Ranked Choice.
5This is truth. The old adage about throwing your vote away isn't exaggeration, or even opinion. In a First Past the Post election, is just math. And math doesn't care about anyone's sense of moral righteousness.
2If youre gonna start out with things like "basic understanding" you must understand that people aren't going to read the rest, right?
I'm challenging that notion, and putting forth the idea that notion itself fostered by the media, who benefit by limiting our free democracy as much as they can.
Capice? Let's talk without attitude, and with the understanding that neither of us knows more than the other.
0But why would any current candidate that benefits from first past the post prefer ranked choice voting and why is it that magically a candidate that supports ranked choice voting will inevitably be preferred choice?
It really sounds like you are using RCV as a Shangri-La, but really just enforcing the status-quo.
0until the Republican party is defunct
Everything is true except this. It's good to have at least two healthy parties competing for voters. So often, single party states allow the dominate party to get lazy because it no longer has to work hard to get votes.
At least ideally, the end result would be an electorate that is further to the left and Republican party that is not as crazy conservative. Overton window shifting and all that.
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Really makes you wonder why the uniparty is pushing him so hard
10They aren't.
0I mean...... gestures around at everything
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While no one can be ready, at least I am prepared.
The haters are armed and organized, are you?
Work towards peace, prepare for the inevitable.
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Armed queers bash back
8Is that a sticker cause I fucking love it
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There is a fascinating cognitive bias where people seem to think because we live in current times it means that history can't happen to us.
5“History Doesn’t Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” – Mark Twain
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This is truth. The old adage about throwing your vote away isn't exaggeration, or even opinion. In a First Past the Post election, is just math. And math doesn't care about anyone's sense of moral righteousness.
0...And? The DNC shouldn't have tried to ransom our votes by Pied Piper-ing in the worst republican candidates they could fight. Where we're at now is on them and the voot bloo no matter whoo brigade, not those of us with actual principles. They have fucked around, and now they're finding out.
-4Are we able to handle the far lefts violence? There has been more of that so why not focus on the group with the most proven violence?
-33All FBI stats suggest far right violence is actually the most common. And considering the attenpted insurrection we all witnessed, it should be plainly evident to any honest observer that it's more dangerous
11Are you mentally disabled
8I encourage everybody to report/block obvious rage-bait accounts like this. (Edit: talking about Cable)
1Thank you for the kind thoughts!
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Ah, hush, dunce.
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