The US Now Has 1 Fast EV Charging Station for Every 15 Gas Stations
The US Now Has 1 Fast EV Charging Station for Every 15 Gas Stations
https://www.extremetech.com/cars/the-us-now-has-1-fast-ev-charging-station-for-every-15-gas-stations
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givn that charging takes much longer than refuelling, this isn't even remotely as good as it sounds. And it doesn't sound too good in the first place
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Depends on the state. I'm in CA and they're easy to find at least in the populated areas.
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That's more than I would have thought. I wonder how close we are to those lines crossing, as EV chargers proliferate and gas stations dwindle?
5 years? 10 years? 20 years?
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Well, considering you almost always leave home with a full "tank" (charge), you don't need as many EV stations.
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If you guys elect that orange dude in next, those lines will remain parallel at best.
Also, I like watching Matt's Off-road Recovery on YouTube and I can see how adoption will hit some sort of ceiling in the rural US.
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Battery swap stations when? China already has them for fleets of ev taxis.
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Tom Scott did a video about Nio's battery swap stations in a test facility in Europe
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Link for the lazy: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hNZy603as5w
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Sweet, Nio is a Chinese company tho
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Never. The industry would have to standardize too much. Maybe for niche applications like taxis or long haul trucking, but not general use.
It took enough fighting to standardize on a plug, and that's not 100% there yet.
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We don't have standardized batteries for a lot of electronics, different types of lipo, lead acid but they are swappable(not interchangeable) you understand. Doesn't mean never. But we need to start, innovation should not stagnant because people think it's never gonna become one single standardized option. Also that sounds like a monopoly
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IMO, battery swaps are the wrong priority. To get them reasonably working you need standardized batteries and a way to identify wear on the battery to figure out the discount or extra charge (wouldn't be fair if I could swap a battery with 30% degradation for one that's brand new).
What we really need is more L2 or L1 chargers. They are a lot cheaper to install and for 90% of drivers they can deliver enough juice to get people where they need to be.
Put them in every office parking lot and grocery store lot and suddenly EVs become a lot more feasible as daily commuter vehicles (particularly for apartment dwellers).
Fast charging is only needed for long distance traveling.
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wouldn't be fair if I could swap a battery with 30% degradation for one that's brand new
Would this matter if you never owned a battery to begin with? I assume degradation would affect your range, but in terms of 'fairness' I don't think it matters too much.
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Pretty sure this is not hard to digitally manage and change payment once deployed.
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Never. There’s too much efficiency advantage to making the battery pack part of the structure.
We dont need to save the gas station industry. Let them go the way of haberdasheries.
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Only Gorogoro (sp?) scooters could work in the USA
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Well hot damn, making some progress on EV infrastructure.
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There are a lot more households with electricity running to them than gasoline.
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And in densely populated areas, houses without off street parking either.
For example:
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That's a good point, though in that particular case it's a matter of bureaucracy. I faced higher vehicle registration fees starting about seven years back when I bought my plug-in hybrid, which left me scratching my head, since if they wanted to encourage adoption, they wouldn't institute higher fees so early on in the adoption curve. There is clear opposition by vested interests that have nothing to do with the practicality of the technology itself. Still, given the realities, both bureaucratic and practical, I feel like plug-in hybrids are the best solution for now in most cases.
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Astute observation, thanks for sharing
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Unfortunately a lot of them are unusable. There are a lot of federal incentives to install them but none to keep them functional. I can find ev charging stations but they are almost always rusted connectors or simply broken.
And the ones that do work give you a max 60kw output instead of the advertised "up to" 250.
Once you open something up to the general public, they are going to ruin it almost instantly. Source: have worked in customer facing positions in the past.
Yeah people can treat public stuff like crap. However most of what I'm seeing is stuff that was made as low cost as possible and just can last more than 6 months outside without rusting the charge connector.