DEBATE: Should Muslims vote for Joe Biden in November?

If you’ve got a better plan I’m all ears, but I’ve never seen any actual alternative proposed.

This mindset is the reason Democrats keep loosing. Saying I’m better than the alternative, only can work so many times.

Actively NOT voting for somebody who is "less bad" than the other guy is an act of stupidity I can never comprehend.

but not showing up to vote, is the only way in the broken American political system to show that you had enough with the bullshit.

Lmao what? No it's not. It's the ultimate act of capitulation. It says nothing more than "Do what ever you want to me, I don't care"

Yeah, that's cool, then, let's get this "I'll be a dictator on day one" insurrectionist back in there. You won't have to worry about another vote after that. That'll show those Dems.

Yeah not showing up to vote would certainly show the controlling Elites what is. Also goes nicely with that 30% of Americans that don't vote no matter what. If you're going to insist on idiotic plans at least vote third parties so you know your vote actually counts as a statistic of a locally grumpy voter. On the bright side if you guys get your way and Trump does get elected it could make the material circumstances bad enough that we could see a real upheaval in American society that will make things significantly worse and then make things significantly better.

Voting strategically is not an act of heroism any more than wiping your ass is. It's the bare minimum that you do when things are basically okay.

The real question you should be asking is "should I tolerate the situation in America as it exists?" If you're not happy with Trump or Biden, the answer is no. End of story.

Strike is on the table. A large general strike would be needed to force reforms. Get specific and organize. Be sure to include voting systems in your thinking.

But don't forget to attend to the basics while you're at it. There's no realistic third alternative in this voting system. Many more people will die under Trump, and you won't be the one picking.

You should be showing up to vote, just not for the two parties of capital.

Democrats aren't losing, they've over performed in just about every election since 2020. The party has grown more left wing in recent years but obviously work still needs to be done. Virtually every progressive in government will endorse Biden for reelection. There was no significant primary challenge against him.

If you don't vote you aren't participating in an election where you can influence the outcome. In reality the statement you make by sitting out is that you don't care what happens.

There are valid criticisms you could make of Biden especially over how he has handled the Gaza war. But pretending that you're enlightened by not voting and effectively helping Trump is not an effective strategy in the long term.