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How cars spy on their drivers and passengers

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Cars and their privacy and security concerns

Fuck Cars @lemmy.world How cars spy on their drivers and passengers

Fuck Cars @lemmy.ml How cars spy on their drivers and passengers

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They come right out and say they can collect and share your sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic information

Dude what the fuck

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- I would like to know specifically how a car company can collect sexual activity and genetic information. The genetic information thing really sounds like FUD.
  
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  Is it FUD if it's a direct quote from Nissan's privacy policy?
  
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  Maybe from genetic testing companies that sell that to data brokers, which a car company could enrich your personal information with?
  
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  Not to mention some of the other information listed like sleep patterns. How do they get that data?
  
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  I could see certain accessibility settings of cars such as color blind settings, bold text, even physical personalization ordered for the car based on hereditary or not genetic conditions falling into that category.
  
  Some companies will find that information useful for ads I suppose.
  
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As mentioned in another comment, the link takes us to the parent page where you can choose a brand (and presumably then, a model) of car to learn about.

I noticed that Mazda isn't included among their brands so I sent a suggestion, thank you! I didn't know that they provided privacy support for so many devices - they even have the Nintendo Switch in there and all kinds of categories: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/

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- I also noticed Mazda wasn't on there. Doesn't even come up in a search. Does that mean they're more respectful of privacy?
  
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  It means that they haven't reviewed them.
  
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  No, it means they haven’t investigated them. If they had they would include them on the list and tell you the details.
  
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What would you need to do to make a car dumb? Remove all connectivity chips? ECU swap? Flashing custom software?

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- Buy a simple car
  
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  Thats the easy route, but i had hoped it would be possible to do something with newer cars. Looks like old ones might fall out of favor of laws in the future.
  
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- I'd think just unhooking the antenna would do it, it might stop working eventually though
  
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- Usually, the efficient goal oriented are dumb enough like ebikes. I am guessing investing in Aptera would be a great option for a to b daily driving. Aside from that, custom computer to control the car is the most logical step until you get into electric or hybrid type vehicles where the aftermarket is not big enough. Removing wireless connectivity fuses are another option but I don't know if a service shop will connect the fuses defeating your privacy. Also a phone app will always be anti privacy. Make sure to get products without apps or wireless connection capabilities as manufacturers start preventing you from using products without registering it with an app first.
  
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- My LEAF has a 3G radio. It's useless now. If it were still connected, I could yank it; you can have any shop do the same.
  
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- Feel like it could be as simple as removing a fuse (or fuses) in some cases.
  
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laughs in 1988 Volvo

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- Joins in 1978, 1987, 1990, 1992 Volvo. I have a problem.
  
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  If that's a problem, I'd hate to see the solution
  
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All of them are voted super creepy lol

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I've got a 2005 Subaru forester. No privacy problems so far

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- My car is a 2015 and I'm in no hurry to replace it, but I can't help but worry about the future. I like replacing the head unit in my cars, and it's going to be a worse and worse option as time goes on, potentially resulting in losing actually useful features.
  
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2009 vibe.

Other then the 420 error. My car doesn't tell anyone anything.

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Somewhat related but does anyone have any recommendations for aftermarket gps trackers (not navigation)? I drive maybe once a week so I'm looking for something with a battery life longer of 10+ days

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- Look for any of them that wire directly to your battery and don't need to be charged. A GPS pinger uses very little energy so you shouldn't need to worry about much battery drain
  
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  My car got stolen, recovered, repaired (5 weeks!) and then two weeks later two guys with guns tried to carjack me so....it's become important to me lol
  
  I hate driving but I cannot see my family out in the boonies without a car
  
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Found another video about privacy in cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIryvRwxp9A

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- Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
  
  https://www.piped.video/watch?v=eIryvRwxp9A
  
  Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
  
  I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
  
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think of all the trashed, cluttered garages those sensors scan and photograph every day

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your link is broken and does not take us directly to an article :/

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- You have to click on a brand and there is the research about their cars.
  
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  Please just direct link to articles; or provide per-brand links to individual articles. Some of us use browser settings that do not fully render pages because Javascript cannot always be trusted completely to run without guardrails.
  
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