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Update on NS2 Backwards Compatibility testing

  • I'm reading:

    • "exclusively Nintendo Switch 2 game cards" as meaning its the new red S2 game card format.
    • "include the original Nintendo Switch game and its upgrade pack all on the same game card" as meaning that the base game has been patched with the NS2E upgrade and the result written to disc.

    Of course if any post release patches that occur may need to be downloaded but their apparent intent has been to provide a version that is playable from gamecard.

    This sounds like the best implementation with the exception that the base game is not playable on S1 consoles (something you could do of you bought it digitally).

  • Its the same concept as a stub game disc which requires a full online install (something Xbox used for cross-gen one/series titles).

    Its nothing like the account tied physical sales they proposed at the Xbox one announcement.

  • Switch games are sourced only from Nintendo

    I'm pretty sure some regions can buy Nintendo digital games from humble store.

    The don't support my region so j don't know what the range is like but I believe it as available for some places.

  • I don't think he has a great understanding of Australian prices.

    The current MKW price of au$120 looks high but if you remove our GST and convert to USD with the average exchange rate over the last 12 months its equivalent to us$70.85. (Donky Kong is au$110 or us$65).

    We are currently at a low point with our dollar so the conversion for MKW today would be us$66.49. (DK would be us$61).

    Compared to the prices I'm seeing internationally it looks like Australia is getting relatively generous prices from Nintendo.

  • In the Australian market the base model is:

    • selling for au$700
    • if we remove GST we get au$635..45
    • and convert to USD for us$383.91

    If we compare the listed US price:

    • 450 ÷ 383.91 = 1.172

    So the US price was already about 17% higher than our local price, a position that may have been taken in anticipation of the US tariffs.

    How do the other international pre sales tax prices compare to the US? Is this pattern across the board or is Australia an anomaly?

  • In Australia we had an au$90 price tier with only 6 titles:

    • Breath of the Wild
    • Pokkén Tournament DX
    • Fire Emblem Warriors
    • Xenoblade Chronicles 2
    • Super Smash Bros Ultimate
    • Tears of the Kingdom

    All their other AAA titles were au$80, for example:

    • Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
    • Animal Crossing: New Horizons
    • Super Mario Odyssey
    • Pokémon Sword/Shield or Scarlet/Violet
    • Super Mario Party / Superstars / Jamboree
    • New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe / Super Mario Wonder

    Then smaller releases were placed at $70, for example:

    • 1-2-Switch
    • Go Vacation
    • Fitness Boxing 2/ 3
    • Miitopia
    • WarioWare: Get It Together / Move it

    You can see they used the $90 tier quite aggressively early in the piece and then scaled back significantly with almost 5 years between Smash Bros and Tears of the Kingdom.

    At the same time they made sure the Marios (Kart, 3d, 2d, Party, Sports), Pokemons and other franchises with broad all-ages appeal were priced in the middle at $80.

    To be honest I'm a bit worried about the pricing for Super Mario Kart World, the previous one was the beat selling Switch title and if they come out of the gate with high sales they may take the wrong lessons and try to lock in that au$120 price (a 50% increase!).

    On the other hand they may just be price anchoring with the bundle. Having the standalone console priced at au$700 and the bundle at au$770 will let the consumer find ways to justify the purchase, they might say the console is worth $700 so the game is only $70, or they might argue the game is $120 so the console is really only $650. Either way will make them feel better about giving Nintendo the money.

    I suppose the best outcome for the consumer would be for most people to get SMKW in the bundle and then hopefully the next title they release at that price point has lacklustre sales. If they see they sell more units at a lower price it can be a good outcome for everyone.

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