Apparently controversial, in this day and age

"But but..... what about shareholder value?"

• East India Company, United Fruit, and plenty others.

>"Nothing justifies genocide."

>Proceeds to make arguments justifying genocide

I have no idea how you could possibly think this supports your position on things.

If Major Kira was living under a government that offered no alternative to genocide, she'd take up a phaser and start killing government officials, you know, like she literally did, in the show. She'd never condone someone who supported genocide, even if it meant resorting to violent opposition instead.

Despite the trolls accusing people here of justifying it- I do t see anyone here is doing that. I’m pretty sure they know this, and this is what makes it hard to call them out for what they are doing. It’s like arguing with Christians.

They just misinterpret your words, rewrite them using their English-to-Troll filter, and shout them back at you once they say essentially the opposite of what you’re saying.

Example:

ME: “of course I don’t support genocide. But not voting for Biden isn’t going to stop it, and Donald ‘finish the job’ Trump is going to be far worse on Palestine than Biden could ever be!”

TROLL: “See! You support gEnOciDe!”

Now, you could accuse me of doing exactly what I’m accusing them of, but I’d urge you to look through my recent comment history. Somewhere between yesterday and today- you can see this exact thing happening.

The point is. From what I can see, NO ONE here is supporting genocide. The ones in other communities that do, get banned pretty quickly. And anyone that is accusing people of it, are proving to everyone that they aren’t here to discuss things rationally- because they’re starting from a complete and total lack of rationale.

I see tenforward is leaking...

I approve.

Time Traveller from 1993 (when this episode aired): "So, what's 2024 like?"

"If you say you won't support genocide, you get accused of being a Russian asset."

Whichever way you vote, this will continue to happen. Sobering thought, eh?

I think I could find it in me to justify geocide of the Jem'Hadar.

(Since this is not a Star Trek board: The Jem'Hadar are a genetically engineered race, made by the Dominion. Their purpose is to be ruthless soldiers. They are engineered without emotions, or any care for human-like values, and so they inevitably have no sense of ethics. They are managed in two ways: first, the need for a drug-like protein that only the Dominion can synthesize; and second, a predisposition to recognize the Founders of the Dominion as their slavemasters.)

But any race, even a race with a proven tendency to be assholes, like the Cardassians, deserves a chance.

As for Palestinians, it's not even close. They should obviously be considered innocent civilians. If I were to make inferences about who was the more evil race based on the current war, I would be much more likely to pick Israelis because of their current kill count of civilians.

But we don't make such inferences. They're all humans. They're way more closely related than Bajorans vs Cardassians. They all evolved on the same planet, are the same species, with a very recent common ancestor. It's due to their upbringing, education, and circumstances that Hamas and IDF both wish to commit genocide, and it's due to external funding that IDF has been more successful at it.

I am shocked and appalled by this grotesque show of antisemitism. Shocked and appalled I tell ya!

EDIT: /s...obviously

This is super hypocritical coming from pugjesus. Yikes.

OP who has been spam posting pro Biden memes for the past month in this sub

You can say that all you want as long as you accept you have to vote for it.

If you took this out of the context of being on lemmy, it would be impossible to tell which side this came from.

Yeah, it sucks that no one talks about the Junta

We've even had an "Evil must be opposed!" moment.

Maybe we need to take a step back, define herbicide and then go from there

supporting conservative genocide is just another way of saying you love your fellow humas

No idea what you're referring to OP. Stop vague posting and say what's on your mind.

The only good mosquito that bites humans is a dead bug.

well it seems you‘ll all be voting for it

Sisko didn’t like that.

Edit: sorry, moving on.

it's not controversial, what is controversial is what is being defined as genocide. Classic mischaracterization.

Now i'm not going to get into the immediate debate about whether or not this is an active genocide or not, because frankly, not my fucking problem.

what i will get into is the commonly accepted definition of genocide, which is in past tense. It's also commonly used to specifically denote a certain ethnicity, which considering that israel is indiscriminately bombing, i'm not sure how much that applies. I feel like considering palestinian an ethnicity would be like considering a US state to be an ethnicity as well. Though i'm sure there is historical merit to that statement, the complexities of it are not something i'm intimately familiar with so i won't say much on it.

Regardless, I think palestine is realistically entitled to it's own nation, i see no reason for it not to be. Israel, arguably is also entitled to it's own nation, i see no reason for it not to be either.

It'd be cool if israel and hamas stopped committing war crimes, but considering that this is a war in the middle east, i don't know when that will happen.

Kinda soundin' like a tankie here...

Hey OP are you telling people not to vote against fascism or are you going to deny this is a dogwhistle?

Oh joy... I guess watching liberals pearl-clutching themselves into supporting colonialist genocide is going to be the dominant spectacle on this community until the hammer drops in November.

Yay.

Does anyone have proof there is a genocide and can explain me?

Look up the definition of genocide, you stupid and way too obvious groiper dummies