Joe Biden say he "almost fell asleep" on debate stage
Joe Biden say he "almost fell asleep" on debate stage
The president on Tuesday offered an "explanation" for his debate performance to donors in McLean, Virginia.
If the media can get a presidential candidate to drop out just by repeatedly asking him to then why the fuck aren’t they calling for Trump to step down?
Because they’re full of shit. That’s why.
77this is what gets me. Even barring the insurrection itself his unwillingness to accept his loss and not cooperating with the handover. Its funny I remember bush junior was known for not working with the clinton administration on the handover coming in which caused them to be unaware of the al-kaida threat and then trump won't prep the incoming administration. so they are resistant acting properly both coming and going. Myabe the republican party should drop out of running canidates in presidential elections due to incompetence.
19What?
You think Biden is just as likely to put himself over the country and listen to reason...
As trump is?
Look. I don't think Biden is a good candidate, but even I give him more fucking credit than that
Do you really believe Biden is as selfish and egotistical as trump?
That's a pretty hot take even post debate...
And BTW, it's not just "the media". It's "the media" that has been defending him for four years, political experts, and even his own party
https://apnews.com/article/biden-doggett-2024-election-98c3bd8c4138245e7ef8f79d621268e8
13The difference is Biden might be able to be convinced to put the fate of the nation over his own position in office. Trump has no such concerns to appeal to.
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Biden also reportedly stressed that he was apologetic for his debate performance but told supporters it was "critical" to beat Trump in November. Polling has shown that the candidates are neck and neck, even after Thursday's debate in which Biden's demeanor sparked concern among Democrats.
One of the few things I agree with Biden on...
Beating trump is the most important thing, and Biden looks like he might not be up to it.
He just refuses to step aside, because it's not about beating trump to him, it's about him beating trump.
And it's insane to put it on an 81 year that keeps sundowning.
30Aside from stepping aside, which is risky let's all admit - though risky is also staying in - I jokingly, though somewhat firmly believe, that all Biden has to do to see his ratings spike and completely manipulate people is go fucking bananas. Just lean hard into Dark Brandon. Campaign like a motherfucker. Throw out shots left, right, and center. Hop on a couple big stages full energy for two hours.
Basically: All his campaign has to do is twist the narrative. It'd probably work too, though having the idea and accomplishing it are two entirely different monsters. Biden may not be up to acting this piece well enough to sell it. If he did though, I feel he'd come out the other side in a stronger position.
Due to my own biases, I can't think of anyone else who'd be able to go up against a name like Trump. He won't step on anymore debate stages. He won't play fair. Recognition is, I think, very important right now.
8Aside from stepping aside, which is risky let’s all admit
The last Dem incumbent with approval similar to Biden's was Jimmy Carter...
Howd his second term go again?
People keep forgetting that Biden is historically unpopular, he's not a normal incumbent, he's one no one wants 4 more years of.
We just don't want 4 more years of trump either.
So the safe bet is running someone Dem voters want.
Recognition is, I think, very important right now.
And every American will know Biden's replacements name in 48 hours of being named...
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I'm not seeing any polls that show them neck and neck. I believe Bidens just all about staying in power. Same with his wife and the others that have been lying to the public about his well-being. I think it's elder abuse.
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OP is a tagged trump supporter
20Oh no!
-32Yeah that's a giant red flag. You support a conman rapist felon man-child narcissistic asshole to lead the country? That's one of the dumbest fucking things ever. Unless you're just an anarchist who wants to start a shit ton of trouble and get Americans killed, there should be no reason to support him.
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From the article:
Biden did make several trips in the weeks leading up to the debate. On June 13, the president joined other leaders for the Group of Seven summit in Apulia, Italy. Two days later, he flew to Los Angeles for a celebrity-filled fundraiser alongside former President Barack Obama, where his campaign said he raised at least $28 million, per a report from Politico.
Reuters reported that Biden headed to Camp David on June 21 to begin debate prep six days before he took the stage. White House aides who traveled with the president told Reuters that Biden was "in a good mood" on his way to prepare.
So, let me get this straight. Two-ish weeks before the debate, he travelled to Europe to visit our allies for two days. Then he visits LA for a day. Then, a week before the debate, he goes to Camp David to prepare. And that's the strenuous schedule that made him almost fall asleep on stage? And that's supposed to make me feel better? I read another article where it went into a little more detail and said that they didn't even start debate prep until 11 am each day at Camp David, and included scheduled time for an afternoon nap, so it's not exactly like they were working him like a rented mule. This makes it seem so much worse, imo. The president has to do a lot more strenuous stuff than debates, and if he's worthless for weeks after two days of travel, that doesn't bode well for the coming campaign season.
15It's kind of sad, but we have to temper expectations on both of the candidates. These two both hit retirement age over a decade ago and we're trying to put them in potentially the most stressful job in the nation.
- Hostilities were mostly over, but these two were technically alive during World War 2.
- The first meeting of the United Nations was after these two were born.
- The current incarnation of India as a country is younger than these two.
- They're both older than NATO.
- We only had 48 states when these two were born.
- These two were already out of high school when Martin Luther King delivered his speech.
I could just keep going forever on these. I am not sure that this is the job for anyone so far removed from their prime.
5said that they didn’t even start debate prep until 11 am each day at Camp David
Do we know what he was doing before 11am? He has other duties besides preparing for the debate. While probably his most important immediate task, he still needs to take briefings on things like the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, the consequences of recent SCOTUS decisions, and the dumbass shit that Trump said.
I agree that this doesn't make me feel better about him, but I don't think that starting debate prep at 11am and taking an afternoon nap means that Biden was slacking off. It may just mean that he's got other things to worry about.
4That's fair. I'm more addressing a narrative that emerged within 48hrs of the debate that the debate prep team irresponsibly overworked Biden
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Sure doesn't, but they're grasping as many straws as they can
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His trips to Europe were two weeks before the debate...
Anyway, I thought they were blaming a cold and/or being over-prepared...
13His team is in shambles. It’s a fucking disgrace. It’ll cost us the Republic.
7Your comment reminds me of a comment one of my undergrad profs said once, which was something like "no one in Rome on September 4, 476 AD looked at each other and said 'Holy shit! This is The Fall of Rome!"
If Biden loses and a second Trump admin enacts all the shit we're worried about, I think future historians will move the date of The Fall of the U.S. a lot further back.
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All of the above and whatever else they can think of
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That's what they get for holding the debate during nap time.
13It's not like national emergencies happen after 7pm Eastern Time....
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Fucking hell, he’s toast. Replace him or we’ll get trump.
12I think it's too late to replace him unless he decides to step down. Of course they could use the 25th amendment but I doubt they will. When Trump was in office, they brought up the 25th amendment nonstop
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Oh well that makes it so much better.
4Why would you admit this?
1Don't be rough on him, he's not all there anymore
2He probably wasn't thinking clearly, or he may have been half asleep. Who knows?
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his time as career politician should have been an indication but everyone seems lost on the fact he likes the color blue and has a different name other than Trump
maybe colors and letters are not the best indicator of how someone will perform on the job
-11Then again, you could look at their actual track records.
16If only both candidates had been president before and we could compare their times in office.
Oh well, I guess we have to assume that both candidates are exactly the same...
6I think they see the same thing we see, a pushover that they can control. That explains why his policies and stance on things is not the same as it used to be
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