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Sleep paralysis demon

What does your sleep paralysis demon ask you?

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Yes. Markup-Languages are a subset of Programming-Languages. Turing completness doesn’t matter as things like magic the gathering and habbo hotel are Turing complete

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- I am markdown and latex programmer.
  
  Idk it just feels wrong.
  
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  If you can write a moderately complex math equation in tex on the first try, you’re a programmer in my book.
  
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  idk css feels just as frustrating
  
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- So Habbo Hotel is a programming language.
  
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- I feel like programming language produces programs, and makeup languages formatted documents.
  
  I wouldn't consider a formatted document to be a program, so I don't consider a markup language to be a programming language.
  
  Doesn't make it less valuable, though
  
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  ACKSHUALLY ... markup languages do not produce a formatted document. They define semantic elements of the document. The formatting is done by the compiler (whatever it is in the individual context) based on styles defined by a styling language.
  
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- 'This markup language isn't even as capable as Habbo Hotel, but it counts anyway because I just called it a programming language.'
  
  There is a literal hierarchy of syntaxes which are recognized by different categories of machine. Programs require a Turing machine. Anything lesser - in a subset like pushdown automata or finite-state machines - doesn't need a proper computer. So it's not a program.
  
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Is C a low-level language?

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- idk it seem nobody has an answer. Can we just call it "mid-level"?
  
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- Yes, es soon you start pointer arithmetic you dig your own grave. Hence low level
  
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- Not when it was invented, no. Compared to today's stack-phobic languages? Certainly.
  
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- I mean idfk how you’re planning on calling a.out without an even, stronger, lower-level language like Bash 3.
  
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- I'm writing an NES game in C and struggling with some nonsense that'd be trivial in ASM, so I'm recently inclined to say yes.
  
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  Can you just drop to assembly for what you want to do? Gnu compilers even have inline assembly, but with any compiler you should at least be able to built a separate, assembly, object file.
  
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- clearly not, but it is low-er level that other stuff
  
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is a hotdog a sandwich?

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- Taco according to the cube rule
  
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- yes
  
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It's a markup language, not a programming language.

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- Woosh
  
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  So the answer is no, it's not.
  
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  I don't think it is.
  
  Care to explain what I'm missing?
  
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Why does a demon need a moustache?

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- Makes him cooler?
  
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  Makes him evil
  
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  I mean that's what it asks me 😆
  
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Does HTML or LaTeX or Markdown provide a computer instructions which are executed? I'm going to take the unpopular opinion and say they are programming languages.

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You can't write a program in HTML.

End of discussion.

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- programing languages arent use to make programs they are used to program machines which is exactly what u do with html.
  
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  they are used to program machines
  
  Which HTML cannot do, because if it could, that would be called a program. That's what the word means.
  
  HTML makes documents. It's a markup language. It's not even Turing-complete accidentally.
  
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  The "program" is the package of instructions that tell the machine what to do. The instructions are written in a programming language.
  
  With a markup language, the markup is the input to a program (like a browser) that tells the machine what to do.
  
  But I think it's not really boolean, it's a sliding scale. Especially with so many programming languages being interpreted or JIT compiled. I think it's less a programming language than many other programming-related things, but more of a programming language than, say, a slideshow.
  
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- I mean technically I could write an interpreter that assigns semantics to HTML constructs.
  
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Is fondant a cake?

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Is Linux a operating system?

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Hyper Text Markup Language

A. Yes it's a language.

B. People who write HTML have been called Programmers for decades.

C. Are you writing in a kind of pseudo code that the computer is going to transform into another form? Yes.

I think the problem here isn't that HTML isn't a programming language. The problem is that we don't further classify programming languages.

There should be Platform Languages and Client languages.

HTML is most definitely a Client Language.

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As much as a lot of us dislike it... I think it is difficult to argue for e.g. python being a programming language without including html in it.

And honestly if python is no a programming language because you use an interpreter... Then I would love to hear a non-bad-faith argument for c being a programming language as e.g. GCC could easily be viewed as an interpreter too. Obviously there is a difference but is that difference really the difference that you want it to be?

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