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Seriously Consider Skipping the Drinks

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Decades of corporate media telling yuppies that wine was good for them has had lasting consequences.
- I mean, it says what happened right there in the article, and no the problem wasn't "corporate media telling yuppies" anything. In reality, people of lower socioeconomic status are more likely to develop an alcohol use disorder and to suffer serious health consequences from alcohol use, and blaming "yuppies" does a disservice to anyone who needs to hear this message.
  One reason for the shift is that researchers now know that there were some procedural flaws in past research, says Dr. Manson. Past studies often compared people who drank alcohol against a mixed group of nondrinkers. Although some of the people in the nondrinking group never drank alcohol, some had stopped drinking because they were recovering from alcohol use disorders and had been heavy drinkers for years before they quit. Others had given up alcohol because of health problems, such as heart disease or diabetes, or because they were taking medications that interacted with alcohol, says Dr. Manson.
  "When studies excluded former drinkers and people with underlying health problems, they didn’t show the same alcohol-related cardiovascular benefits," says Dr. Manson.
  In addition, the WHF noted that much of the past research on alcohol and heart health consisted of observational studies — not the more reliable randomized controlled trials. When randomized trials were conducted, they failed to find a heart benefit from drinking alcohol. Also, some of the most favorable effects of alcohol had been found in studies paid for by the alcohol industry, which raised the potential of bias.
  
  None of what you said really dismisses what I said about affluent credulous people additionally buying into the wondrous health benefits of their developing wine habits.
- I have more than one relative that have "treated" suspected heart attacks with alcohol. While their reasoning isn't the worst since it interferes with clotting, I'd have a heart attack myself if I tried to convince them that alcohol isn't good for your heart.
  
  So have I.
  But according to the very nonpolitical and very scientific reply I got further down in this comment chain, I'm blaming yuppies for... being yuppies and buying into junk science. Yes, I did do that. How dare I!
I quit drinking comrades! I have over a year without drinking consistently (I've only broken it 3 times for weddings since Feb of last year) i prefer not drinking now, the hangover is unbearable.
Still love were and psychedelics
I also work out consistently now, I'm very proud I stopped drinking because it's made me a better Marxist.
No thanks
Skipping the jabs :)
- The irony in this statement, talking about a known depressant lol
  Drinking for me is increasingly borrowing happiness from tomorrow, and the older I get, the higher the interest rate climbs.
  I’ll still enjoy a drink, but have definitely become more choosy about when and whether it’s worth it.
  
  In the context of alcohol, depressant doesn't mean it makes you sad. It's a depressant as it decreases heart heart, respiration, response times, etc.
  The opposite being a stimulant which increases those functions.
  Nothing to do with mental health.
  
  You're misusing the word "depressant" here. It doesn't mean "makes you depressed".
- Ah yes. Drinking: the only source of fun.
  
  I'm glad you understand!
- You ever notice that the "here for a good time, not a long time" people usually don't get either of those things? I'm not teetotaler but there's a gap between "not averse to having a drink" and "drinking is integral to who I am".
- Hey boss, if drinks are the only way you can have fun, you're already sad. Old part comes next.

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