So, I’m more conservative leaning (European wise) but everywhere I go - the communities are usually filled with so much hate. That I just avoid it.
Is there any place that I can go where there’s not so much based on hate but more on actual discussions and such?
Though, I have been told that - European wise, it is considered more leaning to left in eyes of US. So bit confused.
Note; please keep it civil.
EDIT: Thanks for the responses (even the hateful ones lol), I got the grasp of what I asked.
I’ll look into the suggestions that were made.
EDIT 2: I LOVE how some of you are saying that conservatives are so hateful and yet here you are. Doing the exact same thing. Quite cute and ironic lol! That said if it makes you feel better to spew hate on Lemmy go ahead.
I always thought that the “left side” were open minded and friendly but seems I was wrong, at least here on Lemmy. I suppose, Lemmy become Reddit 2.0. In that way.
Good luck, there's a reason that conservatism is inundated with hate.
It might be a lot easier to re-evaluate your own moral compass and realize that maybe if everyone you want to hang out with is full of hate, you need to find a new crowd.
Uncertain why but your tag did not give an notification.
To the question, it is not that ‘’I want to hang out with other hateful people’’ In fact, I do not at all. Majority with who I spent time with (real life and online) are left-leaning.
I was just curious if there are any conservative place without the hate but, it seems not. I thought Lemmy was a bit different in the sense that, I could question such a thing but to my surprise – I cannot.
Majority here freaks out about the question and start to hate. You have an different opinion than the majority here? Hate and downvotes it will be, just like Reddit. Which is fine, it’s online and anonymity does its job (I suppose lol).
People here perceive me suddenly ‘’hateful & bigot’’ due to 1 different opinion and 1 question which is funny to be honest. Even more funnier with the fact that, I actually have friends who are in LGBTQ and/or are in different political mindset, religion etc.
The ‘’issue’’ I’m having is that I do not really fit either of the spectrum. Not Left nor Right, each time I end up in the middle (Centrum right). Therefore I was wondering how the right-side would be without the focus on hating but it seems, no luck to that.
Hope this answers the question. If not, feel free to tell and I will retry to explain it.
Since you were unwilling to be open or direct with your beliefs (a hallmark of conservatism), I did you the favor of looking through your comment history to try and find the disconnect. And I did.
You seem just as insufferable as other conservatives, just more sexist than racist, which is not an improvement.
At the end of the day, the right is about abusing people infavor of financial gains and controlling their lives. Whatever justification they apply to it is irrelevant. In every country all over the planet, they use different reasons but the political right is always about controlling people.
So you're looking for a community without hate, but your only willing to look at abusive communities. You're not going to find it. You need to ask yourself, why are you a conservative and why do you still want to be part of them?
So, I’m goin to assume you’re talking about the comments on the thing with soccer? I still stand with it. If that’s not it, uncertain what you’re pointing to. If it sexism to say “we do not know everything as viewer”, well yeah. We got different mindset to that.
Looking at abusiveness communities, such as?
I just meant that, most places are filled with hateful stuff and I’m unable to find one that’s not like that.
I commented on someone else which might explain why, I’m more leaning to the right ( at least I think that’s explain it, if not let me know).
It wasn't that you didn't believe her, its your complete dismissal of everyone who disagreed with you as "making it personal". You behave like a stereotypical conservative. You act as though you're the only person who can see it clearly and objectively, when it's pretty obvious from the outside that you can only imagine the situation from his perspective.
I'm referring to all conservative communities as abusive. You can't find one that isn't hateful because that's what conservatives are.
If you wanted to lay out some of your beliefs I could tell you generally where you would align stateside, but you seem to not want to actually discuss what you believe.
It is sexism to make it out to be a "he said she said" situation when a man says it was okay for him to kiss a woman and she says it was something she did not want. You disregard her personal autonomy when you say that him claiming she wanted it is as valid as her stating she did not.
If I hit you in the face with my fist claiming you wanted it, should I get off the hook since as you deem "no one can tell whether you wanted me to do it or not"?
For anyone wondering the "soccer incident" refers to his bad take on Luis Rubiales kissing Jenni Hermoso without permission.
I really don't understand the reason of such a bitter and disrespectful response to a politely posed question. Shouldn't leftists be more tolerant than their right wing counterpart? Or maybe people are starting to be so ill-tempered just because they are systematically losing all elections in Europe and US?
I read his comments and judged him based on how he choose to present himself. I think thats a pretty fair way to make assumptions about a person, based on their words. I responded accordingly and advised him that if he didn't feel he fit in that category he may want to reconsider how he identify his beliefs.
Also, learn about the tolerance paradox and you'll understand why the left are currently so strongly against the right. Also, the left is making great gains in the US, the right is the side losing seats.
Conservatives attempted to overthrow my country on 1/6/21. Why do they deserve respect after that? A reasonable, moral person would see that and choose to stop being conservative.
Any hyper focused group, especially one that has an excluded "other", will form a totem idea of that other and unreasonably become extremely against that totem. So hate spirals out of control. This occurs on either ends of the political spectrum. It can happen with sports teams vs their rivals.
Conservatives typically do not like discussion or debate because it forces them to look at the status quo and ask hard nosed questions. Try the religious forums - Islam, Christianity or any communities focused on nationalism. I imagine that's where such people hide.
Also, European conservatives are usually just as bigoted as their north American brethren. The major difference is that they may be less religious.
I appreciate the candid responses, and I don’t have a solution for you, but the question is an interesting one. Most of the ‘conservative’ people I know who are not interested in the typical hate-filled conservative politics seem to be invested in family and religious pursuits - home-schooling, church volunteering, support groups sometimes - things like that.
If those are of interest, there are likely to be communities that talk about them (or you could start one). However, when it comes to conservative politics, the actual money and laws that those same people support with their votes and donations - that’s pretty hateful stuff, and most of it boils down to some kind of sexism, racism, classism, or something like that.
You might try looking for more academic areas where a particular teaching, theory, or philosophy is being discussed. But daily news items about conservative politics are going to be full of high emotion because a lot of wrongs are being done every day to people and things that deserve better.
Lemmy is a cesspool for politics. Of all flavours. Hell, most of the internet is. Lemmy is especially left slanted though. I wouldn't look for anything remotely right wing here. Hell I wouldn't look for anything politically flavoured. All you'll find is Lemmygrad, Hexbear and Exploding Heads. All awful cesspools of different flavours.
I think a lot of it comes from people wanting to share their opinion, but not wanting to understand the opposing opinion. The objective isn't to persuade, to educate, to reach it a workable understanding - the objective is to emote, throw some blame around, or just drive by opinions.
There's a ton of brigading going on, everywhere, but here too.