11mo ago

Finnish politicians give mixed reaction to Trump win, call for more European responsibility

cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/4509062

Finnish President Alexander Stubb has congratulated his future US counterpart Donald Trump on his re-election.
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Prime Minister Petteri Orpo (NCP) commented on the election [in a press conference ...] "I have been saying for a long time that Europe must take a bigger role. We cannot count so much on US support. Of course, the United States has other interests," the PM said.
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In Orpo’s view, peace must be achieved in Ukraine, but not under any conditions.
"Peace must be attained on Ukraine's terms," he said. "We have our own experience from history that if the big ones agree over [others'] heads, it is not in the interest of a small or independent nation, and hopefully this will be kept clearly in mind when a peace agreement is possibly made."
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Former president Sauli Niinistö, who met with Trump multiple times, struck a cautious note in regard to the possible ramifications for Nato and Ukraine.
On Wednesday, Niinistö commented to Yle about Trump’s assertion that he will end the war in Ukraine quickly.
"I haven't seen a detailed plan on the matter, if there is one. Rather, that will have to be considered after we see what he is really going to do," Niinistö said.
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11mo ago

Finnish politicians give mixed reaction to Trump win, call for more European responsibility

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I would bet, that one of the first things Trump does is end support for Ukraine. We have to give them what they need now, so they can take back what's theirs before the US support runs out.
- He says he wants to end the war. Ending support doesn't do that and I don't see how Russia winning would be beneficial to the US.
  
  Since when does Trump care what is beneficial for the US?
  
  I bet leaving Ukraine without weapons or ammunition would end that war rather quickly
  
  Have you ever browsed hexbear? Not giving ukrainian nazis any money will end the war. Ending the war to them means that Ukraine has to fall
Right the fuck now Europe needs to eliminate or at least HIGHLY reduce dependency on America in all fields
- That doesn’t come without a larger role for the EU and good f***** luck trying to get the MEGAs to agree to that.
  I’m from Scandinavia and I hope to f*** we are actively working on a pan-Scandinavian defense treaty (it could exist within the NATO framework until NATO collapses) and a pan-Scandinavia united defence forces. I want Swedes, Norwegians and Danes in the same damned battalions. I cannot see anything getting agreed in the EU, however much I would prefer that (Europe together strong and all that), with Hungary, Austria and all the other countries descending into neo-nationalism.